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# Carracosta speed issues?

Suppose you have a carracosta with a jolly nature and max speed ivs, and it uses shell smash. What is the fastest Pokemon it could outspeed? I know it can beat an unscarfed tangrowth after a boost, but not swoobat, which sits at 114 base speed. In short, what base speed does it beat after a shell smash boost without resorting to aqua jet? I'm guessing it's roughly base 80-85, but i'd like a second opinion.

Carracosta Max speed: 179

After 1 Shell Smash: 358

You can pass any unboosted base 113 Pokemon. Their max is 357, one less than your speed so no tiebreaker.

Swoobat is base 114 and has a max of 359.

selected Feb 12
Thanking you.

Carracosta
Speed: 110 (max IVs, positive nature, no EVs)
*Shell Smash: 220
Speed: 179 (max IVs, positive nature, max EVs)
*Shell Smash: 358

Tangrowth
Speed: 149 (max IVs, positive nature, no EVs)
Speed: 218 (max IVs, positive nature, max EVs)

Swoobat
Speed: 290 (max IVs, positive nature, no EVs)
Speed: 359 (max IVs, positive nature, max EVs)

Base stats are deceptive because you need to calculate things like EVs, IVs and natures as well. It's not practical to EV train a Tangrowth in speed since it's so slow, so it's better to invest in defences instead. Carracosta will most likely outspeed Tangrowth.

For Swoobat, speed is commonly EV trained, so it would depend on both Pokemon's IVs as to whether Carrcosta can outspeed it.

answered Feb 8 by

Carracosta's speed is 179, 2x makes it 358.

OK. The equation is `(((IV + 2Base + (EV/4) + 100) * Level)/100+5)* Nature`

Plugging in... `(((31 + 2Base + (252/4) + 100) * 100)/100+5) * 1.1`

Simplifying... `(((31 + 2Base + 63 + 100) * 100)/100 + 5) * 1.1`

Simplifying... `(99 + 2Base) * 1.1`

Simplifying... `108.9 + 2.2Base`

Rounding down... `108 + 2.2Base = Stat`

So... `358 > 2.2Base + 108`

Simplifying... `250 > 2.2Base`

And finally... `113.6363636363... > Base`

Rounding down... `113 > Base`

Anything smaller than 113. Hope I helped! :D

I know this is already answered Multiple times, but the Fastest Pokemon you can outspeed would be Serperioir
(I know this is not the correct way to spell, I will change)
Becuase Serperior has a base speed of 113 you would be able to out speed it.