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Breloom or Cacturne?

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asked Feb 20, 2013 by SpacefishFlygon

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Well, I don't know what you want to use them for (presumably a physical sweeper), nor in which tier you want to use them, but in any case:

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Cacturne shouldn't be used outside of NU (despite Smogon's RU tier ranking for it). While it has the same typing as Shiftry, it has appalling speed and defences. At least Shiftry's speed in the sun will give it an advantage against Pokemon like Scizor.

Cacturne @ Life Orb
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Speed
Nature: Adamant
* Drain Punch
* Sucker Punch
* Seed Bomb
* Swords Dance

If you want, Cacturne can serve as a Spiker as well, but I'd suggest using something else instead, like Garbodor, making your Cacturne a physical sweeper.

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Breloom can fulfil many roles, either going as an all out attacker with its Technician ability, or a staller/ Focus Puncher with Poison Heal and Substitute.

Breloom @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Nature: Adamant
* Spore
* Substitute
* Focus Punch
* Seed Bomb

OR

Breloom @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 4 Hp
Nature: Jolly
* Spore
* Swords Dance
* Bullet Seed
* Mach Punch

Breloom for OU, Cacturne for NU. It's not as if these Pokemon can play outside of their tiers anyway (well you can use a Cacturne in OU, but it'd just be fodder for a Scizor). If this is just a random question as to which is the better physical sweeper: Breloom. While both Pokemon have a x4 weakness, Breloom is faster and has brilliant abilities for it to get past its x4 flying weakness.

answered Feb 20, 2013 by fondant
selected Feb 20, 2013 by SpacefishFlygon
Thanks!
Actually, Cacturne is a great Spiker with an offensive role, compared to Garbodor, who's purely defensive.
Yea, but most people forfeit Drain Punch in favour of Spikes, and if that's the case, Cacturne forfeits its recovery method. Besides, Drain Punch is there to deal with Probopass.
It depends if you need a Spiker or not, if you don't, more people use Skuntank.
I just find it pointless to have a frail Spiker; Cacturne has really poor defences, and it's in the same class as Ursaring in that it has high attack but depressing speed, so it should sweep ASAP, rather than waste its time throwing spikes.

That's just my advice.
More people use it as a lead with Focus Sash or Yache Berry, things that work awfully well. Also, before, when Sand Veil was available to him, he could use Encore to have more setup opportunities. He shouldn't be used as a sweeper.
I'm not going to get into an argument; if you want to provide an alternative set then post an answer.