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# Is Magnemite's Gyro Ball stronger than Magnezone's?

Because Magnemites speed is lower, but Magnezone's is its evolved form so which one will do more damage?

asked Mar 25, 2013

Well, this is a long list of calculations, so if I've got something wrong, someone please point it out.

Formula for Gyro Ball:

Base Power = 25 × (Target's Current Speed / User's Current Speed)

But no greater than 150 base power.

While the Base Power is dependant on relative speed, you also need to factor in attack stat, since Gyro Ball is a physical move.

Magnemite's highest attack stat at 100: 185
- lowest speed at level 100: 85

Magnezone highest attack stat at 100: 262
- lowest speed at level 100: 112

Magnemite
Base Power = 25 × (372 / 85) = 25 x 5 (rounded up) = 125

Magnezone
Base Power = 25 × (372 / 112) = 25 x 4 (rounded up) = 100

Magnemite's base power for Gyro Ball would be higher.

According to Pokemaster, this is the formula for calculating attack:

USERATTACK = (2×USERLEVEL + 10) × USERATTACKSTAT × BASE_POWER

Manemite attack = (2x100 +10) x 185 x 125 = 5.087.500

Magnezone attack = (2×100 + 10) × 262 × 100 = 5.764.000

So actually, Magnezone would deal more damage, due to its higher attack stat.

Of course, Gyro Ball also depends on your opponent's speed, what your Pokemon is holding, its EVs/ IVs, your opponent's EVs/ IVs, and what your Pokemon's ability is as well (e.g. Analytic). We can discount STAB in this case, since both Pokemon will receive STAB from Gyro Ball.

I really hate numbers.

answered Mar 25, 2013 by
selected May 1, 2013
so magnezone's one will do more? ok i just wanted the answer
im not gonna try to understand that
You know, there is a sentence that says "Magnezone would deal more damage" in my answer.

Working out might seem really pointless, but if I just said "Magenzone does more  damage", and gave no reason/ calculations, then... yea, bit of a mute point.

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