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# Surf? Waterfall?

What is stronger?
Surf (95) with Special Attack 200
or
Waterfall (80) with Attack 243?

Okay. Here's the damage formula

Damage = ((((2 * Level / 5 + 2) * AttackStat * AttackPower / DefenseStat) / 50) + 2) * STAB * Weakness/Resistance * RandomNumber / 100

To find the answer you want, I'll assume a few constants.

Constants:
Level=100
Defense Stat=100
STAB=1.5
Weakness=1.0
resistance=1.0
Random Number=20.

Waterfall calculation:

Given---> attack Stat=243, attack power=80

Damage = ((((2 * 100/ 5 + 2) * AttackStat * AttackPower / DefenseStat) / 50) + 2) * STAB * Weakness/Resistance * RandomNumber / 100

Damage = (((42 * 243 * 80 / 100) / 50) + 2) * 1.5 * 20 / 100

Damage = 165.296* 1.5 * 20 / 100

Damage=49.48 or 50 with significant figures.

Damage Surf:

Given---> Attack power=95, SpAtk=200

Damage = ((((2 * Level / 5 + 2) * AttackStat * AttackPower / DefenseStat) / 50) + 2) * STAB * Weakness/Resistance * RandomNumber / 100

Damage = ((((2 * 100/ 5 + 2) * 200 * 95 / 100) / 50) + 2) * 1.5 * 20 / 100

Damage = (((42 * 200 * 95 / 100) / 50) + 2) * 1.5 * 20 / 100

Damage = (((42 * 200 * 95 / 100) / 50) + 2) * 1.5 * 20 / 100

Damage = 161.6 * 1.5 * 20 / 100

Damage=48.48= or 48. with significant figures.

-Waterfall does 50 points of damage.

-Surf does 48 points of damage.

there's not much difference, but you could always use stat boosters, EV training Etc.