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More viable Garchomp counter?

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Weavile
Nature -Jolly
Evs- 252Att 252Spe 4SDef
Item-Life orb
Moves-Iceshard/Low kick/Night slash

Mamoswine
Nature- Adamant
Evs- 252Att 252Spe 4HP
Item- Life orb
Moves-Iceshard/Earthquake/icicle crash

Since either of these can OHKO the new OU Garchomp after entry hazards. Which of these would continue to be more beneficial to have in general?
My team
Subpunch Breloom
physical defensive Fortress
Cleric Blissey
Choice Band Azumarill
Choice Specs Rotom-H

Edit: I forgot I replaced my T-tar. I added in Rotom.

asked Oct 20, 2012 by ...Zzz
edited Oct 20, 2012 by ...Zzz
Not going to answer this, but I know, and I am sure that it is Mamoswine.

1 Answer

2 votes

i use weavile.

Weavile @ Focus Sash
Trait: Pressure
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
EVs: 252 Atk/ 252 Spd/ 4 HP
- Ic Punch
- Pursuit
- Low Kick
- Ice Shard

Outside of Sand and no Hazard damage be present factors here. Ice Punch usually OHKO's Garchomp with x4 weakness STAB. if not, Sash Hangs on whether Chompy hits first or not. next turn Ice Shard kills Garchomp who gas no priority moves.

Weavile.

answered Oct 20, 2012 by SlipperyDevil
I'd say Mamoswine. He can take more hits, has awesome dual STABs, is not weak to SR, he can set up rocks, he can break Subs with Icicle Crash, has more Attack than Weavile, and there's a reason that he's OU and not Weavile ;D
both weavile and mamo gets screwed if chomp gas rough skin which is always since you wouldn't use either in Ubers. you would need a Special Attacker with Ice Beam, a focus sash and a Priority move to finish it off.
example. Rocks and Spikes 3 are up.

Mamo.

Mamo switches in;
-12.5% SR
-12.5% S3
__________
75% HP

-25% Substitute
__________
50% HP

Icicle Crash ob Garchomp. Chomp has Yache Berry/Sash
-12.5% Rough Skin
- 10% LO
_________
27.5% HP

Garchomp Outrage.
Dead Mamo



Weavile. same scenario.

Weavile switches in.

-25% SR
-12.5% S3
_______
66.5% HP

Weavile uses Ice Punch. Garchomp has Yache/Sash. Garchomp lives.

-12.5% Rough Skin
---------
53% HP

Garchomp attacks. the Sash Nazi screams "No Sash for you!"

dead Weavile.
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Did you upvote that just for the Sash Nazi Fizz?