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A suggestion: Clans?

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Ok this might sound stupid but it's really a follow up to the DB League as that's not even active anymore. So everyone really liked the League it was quite popular until like a month ago. Well I bet some people out there who still like a bit of a competition that's not a tourney.

Basically the idea is to have Clans and they can battle each other to get a higher stop on the Clan ladder. The #1 Clan on the ladder is obviously the best Clan. I idea isn't too have all the good battlers in one Clan, like Mew and Sf and Blobyolo and Kyron, but to get some noobs and help them improve so they become better. Each Clan will have a Clan leader, who the Clan elects. Usually the best battler but I don't know.

People can join a max of 2-3 clans at a time. Anyone can be accepted into their first Clan that they choose, but if you want to switch or join another that Clan has to accept you, either the Clan leader says yes, or you prove your skill to a worthy member of the Clan. Hopefully not every tries join one Clan, because someone like Mewderator is in it.

Anyway this is my general layout of the plan, hopefully some people will take this idea into consideration. I know it sounds a little stupid, but give it a try, at least? :)

asked Dec 5, 2012 by Dr.Flame
edited Dec 5, 2012 by |SentByRavens|
yo mew + mike, since you two are kind of noobs, you can join my clan and i'll help you improve!! :)
Guys, I have a question: Since people in Clans are kinda there to learn, is that going to mess up the Tutor and Apprentice thing if a tutor and his/her apprentice are in different Clans?
Tutor's can still teach Apprentices. Clans don't really separate people, just so they can battle with other people and such.
Cool. But I think I read that you can join two or three. Maybe only one at a time.

I may be mistaken about that.
Mmm. good Idea! If only my wi-fi was more efective XD

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6 votes

And let us not forget B3N, Kyron, and Flame, that I suggested this long ago but never posted due to the disapproval of SF and Mike. This idea is currently popular due to the League's major slow (DT has seem to forget about it). Just thought Id recall these factors. Anyhow, I suggest that we respark the League and establish Clan Captains based off of the 8 Gym Leaders, except with a NEW Tournament hosted by another Daily Active Mod such as Mike. TBH I never wanted DT to run the League as I forsaw the outcome.

Anyhow, I agree of a DB Clan. However, I can see the separate Clans idea developing into feuds. That is not a great idea. A DB Clan should include everyone, as we are all apart of the DB. Here is the System that Kyron and I developed long ago when we thought of it:

The DB Clan was going to be divided into Teams based off Tier, and the number of each member in a team would be based off the number of Pokemon in each tier. The minimum amount of Members are 3 and the Max 5. The collective Teams will make up the Clan as ONE whole. Note that as a C
*For example NU would have 5 Memberrs as the largest Tier and RU only 3 as the smallest.

Each Subdivisional Team will have its own Ranking System as also mentioned above. Similar to "Seats" of Band and Orchestra, the Member with
a.) Clearly displayed Superiority Knowledge, Experience, and Records
b.) Dedication (Activeness on the both the DB and respective simulator)
c.) Recomendations or Votes from Mod, Expert, Editor, or Normal users (a Mods Vote worth more than an Editors, an Editors worth more than an Experts, and so forth)
will be deemed Captain, the Leader of the Clan.
The Second, Third, [Fourth and Fifth] Seats will have to apply to the Captain and meet his designated conditions to become apart of the Team.

The Captain is, as said before, thr Leader. He or she is responsible for arranging Team Building sessions, Tutoring opportunities, etc. They must be active and should appoint the 2nd Seat to comand if they must be Inactive.

Note that each Team only Specializes in a Tier: it is not a restriction from others. An OU Team can still compeye in NU; they just SPECIALIZE in OU.

Each Team should NOT be divided from the other. The Teams are together a Clan, and shoupd still interact and operate as a whole. This system is just unique in in depth Ranking, in which to encourage Memebrs to get better.

And yes, you can also move up in Rank. You can challengr someone for their Seat.

This is how Kyron and I developed it. I personally Promote this idea.

answered Dec 19, 2012 by Enoch.EXE
Ehh I like Dr.Flame's idea better.
^^^^^^
See my opinion is nowadays everyone wants to base their ideas and pretty much everything off of tiers which I find unfair as many users hate using specific tiers and just want to battle freely in any tier of their choice be in NU or UU. I personally find this a bad idea as Flame's idea covered many things involving interaction between users, making for a more friendly community and also building some friendly competition as well as helping noobs such as me improve in the metagame.

In short, I think Dr.Flame's idea would be more helpful to the site as more people need the boost more experienced users can give. This idea, however, kind of restricts us to a tier and I don't like that. And another thing I don't like about this idea is that whatever tier that person specializes in will be their clan. I find this totally unfair, as we'll have Blob doing Uber Hail and JirachiCelebiMew doing NU. Rather I believe, if this idea comes thorough rather then Dr.Flame's, that every user should go into the clan of the tier that they are worst in to help them improve in that tier.

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ROFL, dude, the plan was to be in the tier you think are best in and get challenged by others who want to see how good they do in that tier.

That being said, any clan can and most likely will try to fight people from other clans. i mean, Playing in the same tier, time after time gets too damn boring.

And being in clans with people who you know how they fight is quite boring. Getting with people who you don't know well is good, since you learn more styles of play and gain more knowledge, even if that person isn't the best battler out there.

Personally, both these idea's have flaws, but we ain't perfect, and we shouldn't try to be, cause that just causes more problems and crap like that. Sure, we want the clans to work well, and we should try to make them as best as possible, and everyone, not just one person, will have to work as one to get this done.
I basically thought of the same thing but I got downvotes rather than upvotes. Bias is a reatard.
@B.B.
I fully understand your point: make a User friendly Clan. Although I also agree, let me point out the point oof a Clan. A Clan is a Competitive enviornment, and thus the DB would need the most Active and Strongest in order tobe succesful.

In addition to that Ayan, that is why we have the DB's Tutor and Apprentice program. If this Clan idea kicks off, we could integrate the Program with the Teams. I excluded the Waiting list, an additional Seat Seat where 3 follow ups  can be Tutored by the Team and get a shot at winning the seat.

As for the "help them improve in other tiers", let me say again that the Trams SPECIALIZE in one Tier, not restricted. Perhaps I wasnt clear: the Teams operate and function as a whole. This means that they should and will share the experience they gained or have with the test of their Clan.

So I agree with what your saying, and although I have differing ideas, I can easily incorporate your ideas too. Just keep in mind that a Clan isnt exactly for everyone who just wants to be apart. Its a war. A war in which only the Strong survive.
Oh and BTW, JCM and Blob aren't the only talented battlers. Yes they will most likely make Captain, but hell, they meet the Criteria (they deserve it). And uh, again, the Captain isnt the ONLY Member of the Team. Thats the point of having 2ND and 3RD (4TH and 5TH) Seats and the Waiting list.. I am not sure how that wasn't clear.

If you have additional auggestions (a better idea) then please feel free to post your own answer. This applys to all who disagree with my idea. No need to Downvote mine and brew a debate up when you can make your own answer.

And thx for politely disagreeing B.B. instead of commenting like "this is retarded" I really appreciate that *^▁^*
I don't like this idea. My reason is: In my experience, things like clubs and clans are fun...But they are too restricting. If I were, say, in Ubers, I would have to battle Ubers a lot, not because anyone is forcing me to, but because that is the teir I chose. At some point early on, I would say, "You know, I want to battle UU more often." and face it. People would be confused if someone in Ubers started playing UU a lot.
I know I'm not explaining my point well...What I mean is, I like just choosing what teir I battle in, and whom I battle, without worrying about my clan or teirs.
Freedom of choice without others judging. Even if the rules say you can battle in whatever teir you want, people are going to judge, whether they are doing so purpose or not.

I'm a member of a club. It was even my idea to start the club. And a few months into it, I started getting sick of all the rules. They were reasonable, but I much preferred it when I could sit with whoever I want, instead of being called over by my clubmates. I could choose who I wanted to cheer for during a game without thinking "but the person over there is in the club! I should cheer for them!"

It's going to blow up in your faces. Everyone promises to be fair, not judge, not be against the other clans, but that's not how it's going to be.....
I'm sorry, But I really get a sense that this won't work out like you think it will. Take it from someone who accidentally made some of her classmates-and friends- rivals because of a club idea.
I will say it again. I like just choosing what teir I battle in, and whom I battle, without worrying about my clan or teirs.
Erickhill I perfectly get your point, and it's understandable. I'm not saying I hate this idea and it's a pile of crap and the idea and you are retarded and blah blah blah, I'm saying it's not perfect and I thought maybe I could pitch in and point out a few flaws to help out with your idea.

For using Blobyolo and JirachiCelebiMew as the Experts, I meant it as an example. I know we have Hex and Trachy and Mew and whoever else. Also, I'm not going to be rude over something like this. I never will be, I know how critisism (Or critical hits xD) makes others feel, I've been a part of it myself.

Poke'slash, I really get your point of how this could become a rivalry between users and actually your first point was just what I was trying to get through. It won't be socially fit to have someone who's playing RU all the time to drop it for a bit and start sharpening up on their OU and expect people to just deal with it or accept it or whatever.  

Anyway if I am being rude, I am sorry. I'm just trying to get a little point across. I removed my downvote as I realize it was pointless and I was being a bit childish doing that. Anyway I hope I got my point across.
so many long comments...
I dont think anyone would judge, im the proclaimed King of Monotype here at the base yet no one judges me when i get whooped by Mew at OU,UU, or NU XD. Seems kind of a stupid thing to judge people on dont you think?
Yes it is 100% idiotic to not judge you for winning against me in OU :P jk
Also, thanks for the slap in the face. *thumbs up*

Has no influence with everyone leaving all at once. It wasn't that I was "Forgetting about it," though I acknowledge that it was slow.