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Pelipper has finally gone, my NU team still needs help though

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Garbodor
Ability: Aftermath
Nature: Timid (+speed-attack)
EV: 252 speed/128 sp defence/128 defence
Item: Black Sludge
Moves: Rock Blast
Toxic Spikes
Giga Drain
Sludge Wave

Weezing
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Bold (+defence-attack)
EV: 252 defence/252 sp attack/4 sp defence
Item: Black sludge
Moves: Flamethrower
Thunderbolt
Sludge Bomb
Pain Split

Ursaring
Ability: Guts
Nature: adamant (+attack-sp attack)
EV: 252 defence/252 sp attack/4 HP
Item: Flame Orb
Moves: Facade
Close Combat
Shadow Claw
Attract

Camerupt
Ability: Solid Rock
Nature: Jolly (+speed-sp attack)
EV: 252 speed/252 attack/4 defence
Item: Shell Bell
Moves: Rock Polish
Flame Charge
Earth Power
Rock Slide

Dodrio
Abilty: Early Bird
Nature: Adamant (+attack-sp attack)
EV: 252 attack/252 speed/4 HP
Item: Sharp Beak
Moves: Toxic
Pursuit
Roost
Brave Bird

Luxray
Ability: Rivalry
Nature: Timid (+speed-attack)
EV: 252 sp attack/108 attack/148 speed
Item: Air Balloon
Moves: Rain Dance
Thunder
Double Kick
Signal Beam

Any advice would be greatly appreciated
This is my last team btw, so you can at least say if I'm going in the right direction http://pokemondb.net/pokebase/rmt/17479/new-and-very-slightly-improved-team-but-still-need-lot-advice

asked Feb 13, 2013 by ViscountHoratio

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Utility Pokemon. Use the most of what it has to offer, and why did you choose Timid as its nature when you gave it a physical move, Rock Blast?
Item: Black Sludge
Ability: Aftermath
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 4 Speed
* Toxic Spikes
* Spikes
* Clear Smog
* Giga Drain

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Item: Black Sludge
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP, 200 Sp. Atk, 56 Def
* Will-O-Wisp
* Pain Split
* Sludge Bomb
* Clear Smog/ Thunderbolt

After Garbodor's finished with its entry hazards, Weezing can act as a physical wall. Will-O-Wisp to decrease attack, Clear Smog to deal with calm mind/ swords dance stallers.

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Your EVs make no sense. If you're giving it a Guts Burn set, then why did you put EVs in special attack? Guts does nothing to that stat, and you have no special attack moves. Also, Ursaring has a depressingly slow speed, so it needs to sweep before it's swept. Investing EVs in Defence is a waste of time; you need to maximise its speed.
Item: Toxic Orb
Ability: Quick Feet
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
* Facade
* Crunch
* Close Combat
* Protect

Protect is there to make sure Toxic Orb activates, in case your opponent has Will-O-Wisp. Quick Feet is the ability I chose because Ursaring has a really slow speed for a powerful sweeper (and bad defences too). If you want, you can give it Guts instead, but it's liable to KO'd before it can do anything with its speed.

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Shell Bell is a relatively useless item. You also don't need Rock Polish and Flame Charge on the same set; you either go for quick speed boost or speed boost + damage.
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Solid Rock
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 Sp. Atk, 252 Speed, 4 HP
* Rock Polish
* Fire Blast/ Flamethrower
* Earth Power
* HP Ice

I would actually go for Flamethrower over Fire Blast, since it's 100% accuracy vs. 85%, but if you want to take the chance and go for the higher base power, then it's your choice.

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Item: Sharp Beak
Ability: Early Bird
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 4 Def
* Roost
* Brave Bird
* Return
* Quick Attack

Standard sweeper set.

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Rivalry is a rubbish ability, considering that Luxray has two other abilities that are much better for a sweeper. In the even that your opponent is the opposite gender, your attack will drop by 25%. Luxray has a significantly high Attack state which means its special attack is something that is not as useful in comparison. Luxray is too frail to set up Rain Dance, and its aim is to sweep ASAP.
Item: Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 4 Def
* Wild Charge
* Crunch
* Ice Fang
* Superpower

Basically, this team aims to sweep as fast as possible. That means you need to maximise speed and attack, forfeiting defences (for most of your Pokemon). After Garbordor sets up entry hazards, follow through to relentless attacking.

answered Feb 14, 2013 by fondant
edited Feb 15, 2013 by fondant
Thanks for that, i'll give your ideas a go and see what happens, also with the ursaring i had EV on attack and speed not sure why i put sp attack and defence
you also put weezing's ability as bold but nature as modest, which did you mean for the nature?
Marz, you didn't keep count of synergy + covering threats in the NU Meta.
Sorry, I edited it; Bold nature and Levitate ability.

And tbh, this team's aim is to sweep ASAP; teams that do this don't consider synergy as much. Besides, he's posted his team around a lot, so I'm going to let him decide what works and what doesn't. I'm here to provide the most advantageous sets for the listed Pokemon.
True. Hope that you don't mind if I rate, just to give my opinion.
That's okay; everyone can rate. Besides I think he wants the help - different opinions are good.