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Politoed @ Sitrus Berry
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 248 HP / 8 SAtk / 252 SDef
Calm Nature
- Scald
- Perish Song
- Substitute
- Encore

Carracosta @ Salac Berry
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Shell Smash
- Waterfall
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake

Bibarel @ White Herb
Trait: Simple
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Curse
- Amnesia
- Return
- Waterfall

Lapras @ Ice Gem
Trait: Hydration
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Ice Shard
- Heal Bell
- Drill Run
- Dragon Dance

Gyarados @ Lansat Berry
Trait: Moxie
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Waterfall
- Ice Fang

Cloyster @ Jaboca Berry
Trait: Skill Link
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Shell Smash
- Icicle Spear
- Rock Blast
- Razor Shell

Also if you don't mind can you put it into imported form Like I did :P

asked Feb 22, 2013 by Latioslover321
If this for Doubles VGC or something? If not, why are they all holding 1 use items...?
K im typing right now. Although my computers about to die lol
I wouldn't have asked that if the berries given to the Pokemon actually covered their weaknesses.

Sitrus: restores HP
Salac: raises speed
White Herb: neutralises negative stats
Lansat: raises crit hit ratio
Jaboca: causes recoil if the holder is hit by a physical move

How do any of these berries cover weaknesses? If you wanted to cover Grass/ Electric liability, you'd use Rindo/ Wacan berries. None of the hold items make sense.
That's true sorry. :D Didn't see them names, just went for it xD. Sorry!
I rarely use waters, what d you expect?
I know we're here to help and give advice, but you really should look up what items do before giving them to Pokemon. I've looked at the other questions you've asked, and it's not as if you used items that didn't really benefit your team; I don't see how being new to water types is really relevant. Just be logical about it.
I'd put d-dance kingdra instead of d-dance lapras
Swampert instead of Bibarel to take electric types and set up hazards + roar
Focus sash on Cloyster
Jellicent instead of Carracosta(there are enough sweepers) to spin block+cripple physical attackers
And add tentacruel to spin, toxic spikes etc

2 Answers

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Here are some of the changes I made.
I try not to switch pokemon in a team but in this case I did.
I do not choice my pokemon but a lot of people do so that's a viable option for Politoed who I had trouble editing.


Politoed @ Sitrus Berry
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
Calm Nature
- Surf
- Perish Song
- Substitute
- Encore

So my reason for surf is because it has a higher attack and because scald won't even take out a regular set Ninetales in the rain. So Surf is a better for that unless you wanted the burn chance but you're choice. I haven't used Politoed so I can't offer much more on the rest of the set but it looks ok.


Carracosta @ Salac Berry
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Shell Smash
- Waterfall
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake

I really like your idea for Carracosta so I'm going to leave it. You probably already knew this but you are WAY vulnerable to priority moves with this strategy.


Bibarel (M) @ Expert Belt
Trait: Simple
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Charge Beam
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Thunder Wave

This is a set suggested by trachy here. I like it and so there you go. The charge beam is nice because it deals with other water types and has a chance to boost you SpAtk.


Lapras @ Leftovers
Trait: Hydration
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 HP / 252 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Ice Shard
- Toxic
- Drill Run
- Protect

So now your Lapras is a special wall. You have the classic combo of Toxic/Protect/Leftovers. Drill Run is a good idea PLUS it deals with steel types who are immune to toxic. In the case of Skarmory spam Ice shard or switch out to a different pokemon.


Gyarados @ Water Gem
Trait: Moxie
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Waterfall
- Ice Fang

This is the Gyarados set that I use and it works quite nicely. Waterfall/Water Gem works well to get the ball rolling on moxie. Earthquake deals with Electric types. And Ice Fang does away with those annoying Flying/Dragon types. Words of warning here:
Salamence out speeds you unless you get a dragon dance in.
You are walled by Rotom-Wash but Waterfall/Water gem can take a huge amount of his health away WITHOUT a dragon dance. So if you get a dragon dance in.....have fun.


Swampert @ Chesto Berry
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 Atk / 128 HP / 128 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Waterfall
- Rest
- Avalanche

I replaced Cloyster here because otherwise you were weak to electric types. Lapras made a nice special wall so in comes Swampert. This is again a set (other than EVs) that I run so you may want to edit after some battle for whatever works well for you. You can also try Rindo Berry as a hold item but up to and whatever works best. Avalanche works nicely against those Flying/Dragons who think they are so much faster than you....poor suckers


So I hope this helps and let me know what you think.

answered Feb 22, 2013 by MrKijani
OMG, Bibarel. MrKijani, you have made my day. I am not the only one who thinks that Bibarel is a potential attacker.
lol thx Pokeslash.
bibarel works well on baton pass, I don't see much else in it
It was in my original too -_-
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Main things you need to worry about are Electric and Grass liabilities. Currently, all your Pokemon are weak to Electric, Gyarados having a x4 weakness (which means a non-STAB Thunderbolt will OHKO it), and only Gyarados is neutral to grass.

Since you have Politoed on your team, this team will be OU. Bibarel, Lapras and Carracosta are not suited to OU (Lapras is a maybe with Hydration, but if you were going to use this ability in the rain then really it should have Rest). I also wouldn't have Carracosta and Cloyster on the same team; I would have one Shell Smasher and another Choiced Pokemon. Shell Smash leaves you open to too many things, especially without White Herb. One grass move will OHKO Carracosta and one special Grass/ Electric move will OHKO Cloyster.

I'm suggesting other Pokemon in replacement of these 3, in order to cover your Grass/ Electric weakness and to allow this team to function better in OU.

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Politoed @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 252 Def, 252 HP, 4 Sp. Atk
Nature: Bold
* Scald
* Toxic
* Perish Song
* Protect

Defensive Politoed, since your Pokemon will depend on its Drizzle. Perish Song is there to get rid of Calm Mind/ Bulk Up stallers, and Politoed can wall a few hits with its bulk + Protect.

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Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 232 Sp. Def, 200 HP, 76 Sp. Atk
Nature: Calm
* Will-O-Wisp
* Hydro Pump
* Volt Switch
* Pain Split

Rotom-Wash will cover your Electric weakness. Will-O-Wisp is there to deal with physical sweepers, meaning Rotom-Wash can take a hit or two.

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Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Ability: Hydration
EVs: 252 Def, 252 Sp. Def, 4 HP
Nature: Bold
* Rest
* Heal Bell
* Scald
* Ice Beam

Rain stall Vaporeon. You can choose Wish as part of its moveset for more team support, but imo this current set works just fine on a rain team.

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Keldeo @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Sp. Atk, 4 Hp
Nature: Modest
* Secret Sword
* Hydro Pump
* Surf
* HP Ice

You can consider a Calm Mind, Life Orb or Choice Specs set in favour of Choice Scarf, especially to get rid of Pokemon like Blissey, but Choice Scarf works just fine from personal experience. Even if you did need 2 Secret Swords to get rid of a Blissey, it's not like it can do that much damage to you.

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Cloyster @ White Herb
Ability: Skill Link
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 4 Sp. Atk
Nature: Naive
* Shell Smash
* Icicle Spear
* Rock Blast
* Hydro Pump

You can give it Focus Sash in favour of White Herb, but having 1 HP left will make it susceptible to priority moves. Standard set for Cloyster; you don't need too much investment in special attack because Hydro Pump will be boosted by the rain.

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Tentacruel @ Black Sludge
Ability: Rain Dish
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 4 Sp. Atk
Nature: Bold
* Rapid Spin
* Scald
* Protect/ Ice Beam
* Toxic Spikes/ Knock Off

Tentacruel will cover your grass weakness. It will also soak up Toxic Spikes and get rid of other entry hazards; main thing it's there for is team support.


Other options

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Quagsire @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP, 252 SP. Def, 4 Def
Nature: Caerful
* Curse
* Recover
* Earthquake
* Waterfall

Bulky sweeper. Unaware is really brilliant, especially against Dragon Dance Pokemon. Quagsire will be slow anyway, so boosted speed makes no difference. Watch out for Grass moves and status moves though.

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Gyarados @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 180 HP, 132 Atk, 204 Speed
Nature: Adamant
* Dragon Dance
* Waterfall
* Stone Edge
* Earthquake/ Taunt

I'm not much of a fan of Gyarados; I've used it before and I've always found that while it'll deal a lot of damage, it's too frail to keep going. It's OHKO'd by a non-STAB Thunderbolt, so it's not as if it's hard for your opponent to get rid of. Still, this set gives it some bulk so it can set up before getting swept.

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Kingdra @ Life Orb/ Lum Berry
Ability: Sniper
EVs: 72 Atk, 200 Sp. Atk, 236 Speed
Nature: Naughty
* Dragon Dance
* Waterfall
* Outrage
* Ice Beam/ Draco Meteor

Due to brilliant typing, Kingdra will be neutral to both of your main threats. No Swift Swim though as this is OU, but if you're taking it to Ubers, then use Swift Swim as its ability.

answered Feb 22, 2013 by fondant
marz, I think your RMT's would be great if you made them directly importable. Use -'s instead of *'s for the moves and use /'s instead of commas. This way anybody can import them onto Showdown or PO easily. Just a suggestion.