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Empoleon @ Life Orb
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
Modest Nature
- Agility
- Surf
- Flash Cannon
- Ice Beam

Roserade @ Choice Specs
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 160 SDef / 168 HP / 4 SAtk / 176 Spd
Modest Nature
- Petal Dance
- Sludge Bomb
- Shadow Ball
- Toxic Spikes

Golurk @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Shadow Punch
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch
- Rock Polish

Rotom-Heat @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
Modest Nature
- Overheat
- Volt Switch
- Will-O-Wisp
- Shadow Ball

Heracross @ Heracronite
Ability: Moxie
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Pin Missile
- Rock Blast
- Earthquake

Regigigas @ Leftovers
Ability: Slow Start
EVs: 4 SDef / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Substitute
- Return
- Drain Punch
- Earthquake

asked Mar 9 by Polardrago

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This needs serious work.

Empoleon


Empoleon @ Petaya Berry:
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 8 Speed / 248 SAtk
Modest Nature

  • Substitute
  • Hydro Pump / Surf
  • Flash Cannon
  • Ice Beam / Stealth Rock / Agility

Here is how it works:

SubPetaya is the most common strategy on Empoleon, and for good reasons. First, it renders Empoleon immune to Toxic, Burn or other ailments. Then, at 25 % of your health -which is likely to happen because by using this set you have to spam Substitute, Petaya time! A buff in special attack, plus Torrent Boost. This makes Hydro Pump so strong. Now, if the 5PP it has are too low, you may try the weaker Surf. Anyway, the difference is not too big. Flash Cannon was bad back in the time as an offensive option. However, now, it is totally viable due to Sylveon, Florges and Clefable everywhere. Ice Beam is supplementary coverage, although there is not really a difference. If you prefer, you can run Agility. This will double your speed, reaching as high as 316, which is all decent. Stealth Rock is also an option for cheap damage at entry, which is nice to keep if you control the field well.
The EVs mainly go for HP and Special Attack. At 372 HP, a Substitute has 93 HP, which is okay I guess. 101 Substitute would've been nice, but sadly the penguin is not okay with that. Naturally, Special Attack needs boosting while not being bad. The 8 remaining EVs go to speed for speedcreeping base 60 like Sylveon, Swampert and others.

Roserade

I'd prefer using Roserade at its true niche, now that Sleep Powder and Spikes are legal together.


Roserade @ Black Sludge:
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 240 SDef / 16 Speed
Calm Nature

  • Sleep Powder
  • Spikes
  • Toxic Spikes / Sludge Bomb / Substitute
  • Giga Drain

While not exactly big, Roserade has the perfect movepool for her role. Roserade is pretty bulky on the special side so you will be able to do a Sleep Powder anyway, which will help a lot shutdowning some threats that aren't named Vital Spirit Magmortar. While your opponent sleeps, you will be glad to get three layers of spikes and a substitute plus replenished HP if possible. How, you ask ? Between Toxic Spikes, Sludge Bomb and Substitute, the choice is though. Toxic Spikes, while not weak, is not really used because a single grounded poison-type Pokémon -and bar Crobat's family, all of them are grounded, and your efforts evaporates. Sludge Bomb can leave a massive dent in some specially sensible foes, while Substitute will provide durability for our fragile rose. Anyway, Giga Drain is a staple to the set because you need healing Roserade to maintain her healthy. Use it as a status absorber as well, because of Natural Cure.
The EVs go for HP and Special Defense to give Roserade durability on the frequent special side. As HP is more important, and for not ending up in a speed tie, you will be glad to use 16 remaining EVs in speed.
If you prefer to be more original, you can do the 252 HP / 214 SDef / 44 Speed for outspeeding Adamant uninvested Arcanine -and that's the bulky Arcanine with Intimidate and Will-O-Wisp for physical creeping and base 95 uninvested with neutral natures or slower.

Golurk

It has 418 Speed at level 100 after a Rock Polish. If you want 453, Jolly > Adamant, although you don't have to bother catching another Golett then repeat the training just for a nature. 418 is nice, too. But Sitrus Berry is the wrong item. Life Orb is just better.

Rotom-Heat

Choice Item > Safety Goggles (o_o)
Trick > Shadow Ball

Its role will be to cripple walls.

Heracross

Fine.

Regigigas

Lol, no. Regigigas is hampered by its ability. Anything can beat it in 5 turns. It is too slow and too weak before the 5 turns. Unless it had Detect, Protect and Detect in a row could work, but then the attacking options would be limited. Don't use it. You need a strong special attacker, so go for:


Starmie @ Choice Specs:
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Speed / 4 SDef
Timid Nature

  • Rapid Spin
  • Thunderbolt
  • Psyshock / Ice Beam
  • Surf

Rapid Spin is the exact weak move, but with the exact best effect, removing hazards. It synergizes well with the team overall. Thunderbolt is a good coverage move to have. You may chose Ice Beam over the STAB Psyshock for Bolt-Beam coverage. Surf is another STAB.

I hope this helps.

~ Sincerely yours, Blitz of Justice.

answered Mar 9 by RecreativeReshiram
I tried SubPetaya Empoleon for a while, but it didn't really work as well as the one I've got currently.
Roserade actually OHKOs most neutral opponents and deals decent damage to resisting pokemon.
Regigigas works okay, but I wouldn't choose starmie, because I was trying to make a team out of totally different types.
Rotom-H uses overheat and will o wisp to narrow the opponents health down into kill zone. I changed shadow ball to pain split to steal health from a fresh pokemon.
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If you want, for Empoleon, mix the two sets, try SubPetaya with Agility. I never tried, but it sounds good.
Roserade is okay offensively, but it is too frail and your team would be based offensive, while not being offensive. This is a  common mistake one make when building a team. Try out the changes. If they did not work well, feed me back.