I've been using a sandstorm ou team, and I've been noticing that I don't have any good counter for greninja, so I've been trying to come up with one. Because of weaknesses from the rest of my team, I've decided that I wanted a water/ground type. I've come up with/built a few ideas and I can't decide which one to use (on that note, no, I have not tested any of these). They all have protect, as well as minimum speed because their speed is already so bad, they might be able to counter trick room. Here are the ideas I've come up with:
v These first two are the ones I'm most leaning toward v
Seismitoad @ Leftovers
Ability: Poison Touch
EVs: 200 HP / 56 Atk / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Drain Punch
- Poison Jab
- Aqua Ring
- Protect
Palpitoad @ Eviolite
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 200 HP / 56 SpA / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Scald / Infestation / Earth Power
- Scald / Infestation / Earth Power
- Aqua Ring
- Protect
For palpitoad, my first pick for the attacks are scald and infestation, but if you think it would be better to run earth power instead, please let me know.
^ These first two are the ones I'm most leaning toward. ^
v But here are some other sets I've come up with as well v
Gastrodon-East @ Leftovers
Ability: Storm Drain
EVs: 200 HP / 52 Def / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Recover
- Stockpile
- Protect
- Infestation
Quagsire @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Recover
- Curse
- Aqua Tail
- Protect
I have also considered Tapu Fini, despite it not being water/ground. Here's what I have in mind:
Tapu Fini @ Leftovers
Ability: Misty Surge
EVs: 200 HP / 52 Def / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Defog
- Moonblast
- Protect
- Taunt / Nature's Madness
(Please suggest what I should do with this fourth move)
For reference, here's the rest of my team:
Mors In Alis (Aerodactyl-Mega) (F) @ Aerodactylite
Ability: Unnerve
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Fire Fang
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Stone Edge
Morbi Aegypti (Hippowdon) (F) @ Smooth Rock
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 8 HP / 248 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stealth Rock
- Roar
- Stockpile
- Slack Off
Sub Tutelae Sunt (Stoutland) (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Sand Rush
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Superpower
- Return
- Play Rough
- Fire Fang
Deus Est Machina (Magearna) @ White Herb
Ability: Soul-Heart
EVs: 56 Def / 252 SpA / 200 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Aura Sphere
- Thunderbolt
- Flash Cannon
- Fleur Cannon
Fur In Noctem (Greninja-Ash) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Battle Bond
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Water Shuriken
- Dark Pulse
- Blizzard
- Extrasensory
Ps: don't be afraid to suggest anything else. Thanks in advance :)
