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Mienshao (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Regenerator
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Hi Jump Kick
- Acrobatics
- Stone Edge

Blastoise (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 84 HP / 252 Def / 72 SAtk / 100 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Aqua Ring
- Toxic
- Surf

Arcanine (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- ExtremeSpeed
- Flare Blitz
- Outrage
- Wild Charge

Rhyperior (M) @ Expert Belt
Trait: Solid Rock
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Megahorn
- Avalanche

Slowbro (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Regenerator
EVs: 8 HP / 252 Def / 232 SAtk / 16 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Flamethrower
- Psyshock
- Scald
- Calm Mind

Honchkrow (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Insomnia
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Night Slash
- Drill Peck
- Steel Wing
- Roost

im open to any changes pokemon moves etc.

asked Jul 30, 2012 by HOT SAUCE
Slowbro can't use eviolite. He's fully evolved.

3 Answers

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I don't care if there are two answers already, when a team has problems, those problems need fixed.

You have multiple major weaknesses. Two of them are to types in general and the other is to Speed.

Your first weakness is to Water types. Now this is obviously a huge problem. This is UU after all, home to the bulky water. We've got Milotic, Swampert, Suicune, and Blastoise here. Your second weakness is one to Fighting type Pokemon. Thanks to the recent UU additions, this is also a huge problem. This is a tier that allows Machamp, Hitmontop, Heracross and now Scrafty and Mienshao. Scrafty and Mienshao in particular are looking to be major parts of the UU metagame. We've also got some Fighting types from RU coming in, like Hitmonlee. The final weakness is to fast Pokemon. Your fastest Pokemon is Mienshao at 309 Speed.

Now, to deal with bulky Waters, I can think of no better Pokemon than Zapdos. Zapdos is able to launch powerful Thunderbolts at the foe, Sub up against Toxic, Roost of any weak attacks, and hit Swampert for x4 damage with HP Grass. Zapdos is also able to retaliate against Pressure stalling Suicune with a Pressure of its own. So it will make for an excellent addition to your team. I think the best Pokemon to replace is Honchkrow, so that you don't increase your Stealth Rock weakness.

FOr dealing with Fighting types, I find nothing works better than a Cofagrigus. That Mummy is what makes it so great, allowing it to launch Will-o-wisps against Guts and Shed Skin. We'll replace the Azelf I saw you had on your team for it.

I saw you had a Nidoking on your team. TO deal with faster Pokemon, I think that will be all that is needed. We can make it a Scarfer and that should help you out a lot.

Now for some changes here and there. Spoink covered a lot of them, so this will be mainly be reitterating what he said.

On Mienshao replace Acrobatics for Fake Out. This works out great with Mienshao's focus on switching in and out a lot. I agree with Spoink's suggestions on Blastoise, adding in Rapid Spin, Scald, and Roar. And also Close Combat on Arcanine. I would definately suggest a Jolly Nature for Mienshao though. This allows it to make use of the base 105 Speed stat it has and outspeed foes who go Jolly, allowing it to Fake Out and then U-Turn to a new guy who can take hits. The damage this causes also helps.

Mienshao (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Regenerator
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Hi Jump Kick
- Fake Out
- Stone Edge

Blastoise (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef / 4 Spd
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Rapid Spin
- Roar
- Toxic
- Scald

Arcanine (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- ExtremeSpeed
- Flare Blitz
- Close Combat
- Wild Charge

Nidoking (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Sheer Force
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Fire Blast
- Sludge Wave
- Shadow Ball
- Earth Power

Cofagrigus (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Mummy
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power [Fighting]

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Roost
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute

answered Aug 1, 2012 by trachy
edited Aug 1, 2012 by trachy
Good ideas, although I think Ice Beam is much better than Shadow Ball on Nidoking.
I prefer Shadow Ball to hit Mismagius and Azelf.
It all comes down to preference though, as Ice Beam, Shadow Ball, and FIre Blast are all equally viable moves to hit the Pokemon that resist or are immune to Sludge Wave and Earth Power. Nidoking is like Alakazam in wishing it had five moveslots.
The main use of Ice Beam is to hit Flygon, Claydol, and Crobat. In my experience Bronzong, Azelf, and Mismagius are more of a problem for me, so I go with Fire Blat and Shadow Ball.
I would have included Ice Beam as an option, but as this is an importable copy, I went with what I would have gone with.
Id put a curse slowbro instead of blastoise
Curse is not that effective on Slowbro. Calm Mind is far better.
Also, Blastoise provides Rapid SPinning. This is needed because of his team. Mienshao is constantly switching, so it is taking in Spikes and Stealth Rock damage, as well as being able to be hit by Toxic Spikes. Arcanine has Life Orb, Flare Blitz, and Wild Charge. WHile these are fine by themselves, combining entry hazard damage and bad poison from Toxic Spikes will lead to it being taken down far too soon. Thanks to Scarf, Nidoking will also be switching in and out, meaning Spikes hurts it. Cofagrigus doesn't like bad poison and Zapdos hates Stealth Rock.
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Hey Hot Sauce I'm going to rate your team now okay? okay. :3


First off, your Mienshao looks good, apart from one thing. Acrobatics with an item (except flying gem) is a big no-no. Also, it doesn't really give you any extra coverage. Replace it with Fake Out - combine that with U-turn and Regenerator and Mienshao is one of the best scouts in the game.


Well, this Blastoise looks okay I guess. Your standard bulky water type. One of the main niches of this guy over Suicune etc is Rapid Spin, and your Arcanine and Honchkrow hate Stealth Rock, so use that. I would say replace Surf with Scald for the burn chance, Roar over Ice Beam as Blastoise isn't the strongest attacker, and Rapid Spin instead of Aqua Ring. Also, an EV spread of 252 HP / 252 SDef / 4 Def is probably better.


Okay. Now, since this is offensive Arcanine and not bulky, I think Flash Fire is the better ability because now he can check so many threats like Darmanitan, Victini etc. Also, Outrage doesn't really give you any extra coverage and locks you in so Close Combat is the better option.


Well, I'm not a big fan of Rhyperior but I guess you want to use it. Avalanche is pretty pointless, it doesn't hit grass types any harder than Megahorn or his STABs. Since you don't have a Stealth Rock setter I'm going to suggest that in the last slot.


Slowbro looks pretty good although you may want to consider Slack Off over Flamethrower, it helps him stall out many pokemon in the tier, and gives him reliable recovery for tanking.


Honchkrow looks good although Sucker Punch is almost mandatory to make up for his average speed, also Steel Wing is a pretty bad move in general. Substitute is a great move on him to protect him from status, although Taunt works too I guess. Also Moxie is a much better ability, Honchkrow behind a sub at +1 is very scary. Anyway, I'm done, hope I helped :D

answered Jul 30, 2012 by Spoink
yea i was definatly thinking about rapid spin on blastoise il change that up
Also, Nidoking would make a great replacement for Rhyperior, as you need another special attacker. Give him a Life Orb with Sheer Force, and Earth Power, Ice Beam, Sludge Wave, and Thunderbolt/Substitute.
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mienshao
Mienshao: Well, for starters, you might want something other than the Life orb for a mienshao with acrobatics. Maybe you could go with a normal gem and Fake out instead of stone edge. Otherwise, yeah, that's pretty much the basic mienshao set.
blastoise
Blastoise: I like him, but to make one bulky, he needs more HP. So, try this EV spread:
252HP/94Def/64Sp.Attack/100Sp.Def/
He has a pretty good set otherwise.
arcanine
Arcanine: Yes, he has good moves and good power, but the Flareblitz and Wild-Charge recoil is going to be HUGE with a life orb. Perhaps a Muscle band for a smaller increase with no recoil, or a Choice Band for even more power. This guy is going to have to be offensively strong, because he can't take many hits. He's pretty good.
rhyperior
Rhyperior: Nice moveset, but dude, I'm telling you based off of personal experience, that HP is the way to go. try : HP/252/Attack/252/Sp.Def/6. This guy has a good moveset, and if you wanted different coverage, you could try throwing in a hammer arm.
slowbroD:
Slowbro: You're going to have to choose between this guy and Blastoise, because two water types aren't necessary. If you wanted another Psychic, I'd suggest Azelf. Here are a couple of Possible Sets:
azelf
Azelf
Physical
6HP/252Attack/252Speed/
Nature:Jolly
Item:Choice Band, Muscle Band, Life Orb
Trait:Levitate
-Zen Headbutt
-ThunderPunch
-IcePunch
-U-turn/Explosion
Good Coverage, and nice power. U-turn get's you out of trouble, explosion, well, explodes.
Azelf
Special Sweeper
Item:Wise Glasses
Nature:Timid
6HP/252Sp.Attack/252Speed/
Moveset:
-NastyPlot
-Psychic/Psyshock
-Thunderbolt
-Flamethrower
Nasty Plot, and then destroy.
honchkrow
Honchkrow: Looks like a good set to me, if you wanted to make him faster you could give him Choice Scarf, I don't know how many hits he can take. Also if you wanted more power, you could give him brave bird.

Good luck with your team.

answered Jul 30, 2012 by Giga
thanks ill try it out haha
what do you think about changing rhyperior from nidoking?
Hmm, you could try it, but I personally like rhyperior.