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I'm sick of people in normal battles using power herb geomancy xerneas! I have been using an imposter choice scarf ditto to counter it, but It sometimes won't OHKO and then I get KO'd. So I wondered is there a better non-legend reliable counter for it? I don't like to use legends unless I'm sure the other person is going to be using them. Thanks in advance!

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A skarmory with whirlwind can completely cripple xerneas by forcing a switch and it loses its power herb and stat boosts.

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Aegislash @ Life Orb/Leftovers
Trait: Stance Change
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Iron Head
- King's Shield
- Sacred Sword
- Shadow Claw
The important move here is Aegislash's Iron Head. You can change Shadow Claw and stuff for Shadow Sneak if you want. Why you ask?
>252+ Atk Life Orb Aegislash-Blade Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Xerneas: 437-515 (95.8 - 112.9%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Aegislash-Blade Iron Head vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Xerneas: 437-515 (110.9 - 130.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Unlike a lot of the previous answers, Aegislash outright OHKOs most Xerneas WITHOUT boosts
Even more importantly
>+2 252+ SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Aegislash-Shield: 161-190 (49.6 - 58.6%)
+2 252+ SpA Xerneas Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Aegislash-Shield: 204-242 (62.9 - 74.6%)

None of Xerneas's moves will be able to OHKO Aegislash even at +2, and at best 3HKO without any boosts
This means Aegislash can switch into Xerneas with very little fear, provided it has not already got up the Geomancy - because it can easily take any unboosted move Xerneas throws at it, as well as tank a +2 if Xerneas decides to set up Geomancy on the turn you switch in.

>+2 252+ SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Moonblast vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Talonflame: 310-366 (104 - 122.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ SpA Xerneas Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Scizor: 576-680 (167.4 - 197.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Mega Lucario: 306-361 (108.8 - 128.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

The other listed counters can still be worked around by Xerneas - Aegislash on the other hand, checks it completely, provided it doesn't try switch into a +2 HP Fire.

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Interesting! I never thought of using aegislash!
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My counter is this
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Scizor @ Scizorinite
Trait: Technician
252 attack/252speed
Adamant Nature

  • Bullet Punch
  • Bug Bite
  • Swords Dance
  • Pursuit

The idea is after a swords dance spam bullet punch

+2 252+ Atk Technician Mega Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Xerneas: 4526-5328 (1151.6 - 1355.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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Who needs speed when you have priority? Gale Wings Talonflame can set up a swords dance when Xerneas uses its geomancy. Pair the swords dance with brave bird and you got xerneas down. Now you got the rest of the team to destroy >:)

>+2 252+ Atk Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Xerneas: 379-447 (104.6 - 123.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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Most Xerneas tend to use some HP EVs since Geomancy increases the other stats high enough, so Talonflame might not always KO.
And as the lowest is 104.6% talonflame is just not good enough, but mayb choice band steel wing works provided geomancy isn't already set up
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I know it sounds like i'm having a laugh, but Shuckle does decent, with a 230 SpD and decent HP, it can tank after geomancy and set up power trick and then gyro ball

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That's pretty much the only thing Shuckle can do, so it's probably not worth the slot on the team.
Clearing flags. Not the best answer maybe, but it's adding insight so I'm fine leaving it here.