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So I am kind of new to breeding and I have been looking all over for answers on how to breed a male Nidoran and a female Nidoran without using ditto...and everyone's answers I saw kind have seemed confusing :(

Does anyone have any simple answers on what pokes I put together to breed for a male Nidoran and a what pokes go together for a female nidoran?

(Besides using ditto what pokes breed for male and or female Nidoran?)


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Scroll to the bottom if you're after a simple list of matchups.

So that we're on the same page, I'll establish the basic ideas of compatibility right away, in case there is any ambiguity: Pokemon are compatible if they share an Egg Group and are of opposite genders. Exceptions are Pokemon in the Undiscovered Egg Group, who can never breed, and Ditto who can breed regardless of gender and Egg Group, unless its partner is from the Undiscovered group. As for how this relates to Nidoran-M, Nidoran-F and their evolution lines, note they are not necessarily exceptions to these rules, so if you stick by them things will make sense eventually; they are however, anomalies within the system that can definitely confuse you. I will try my best to explain this in simple terms, but there may not be any easy way to outline this particular mechanic.

The first hurdle here is understanding which Pokemon in the Nidoran families can actually breed in the first place. Unfortunately this is where the first layer of complexity is met, so bear with me here: Nidoran-F, Nidoran-M, Nidorino and Nidoking are all in the Monster and Field groups and can therefore breed, but Nidorina and Nidoqueen are in Undiscovered and this cannot breed ever. This is where things are strange: Nidorina and Nidoqueen are unable to breed for seemingly no reason, and additionally, Nidoran-F can breed thus differentiating it from the others in its evolution line. If you can get your head around that, things start to make sense a lot quicker.

The main other mechanic to understand is the possibility that Nidoran of either gender will produce offspring that is not of the same gender. Gender dictates how much this affects the breeding matchup: since Nidoran-F is female, it will pass down the species, meaning this mechanic affects any breeding matchup it can possibly have. However, since Nidoran-M is male, the only time it passes the species is when it breeds with Ditto, so this mechanic doesn't matter for most possible breeding pairs. It is also important to note that Nidoran-M, Nidorino and Nidoking can only produce Nidoran-F eggs as of Gen 5, obviously assuming that you're breeding with Ditto.

Hopefully that makes sense, let me know if there's anything you're still wondering about. Below is a list of all the breeding matches that is helpful as an immediate reference.

  • Nidoran-F + anything compatible = Nidoran-F or Nidoran-M
  • Nidorina can never breed
  • Nidoqueen can never breed
  • Nidoran-M + Ditto = Nidoran-F (Gen 5+) or Nidoran-M
  • Nidoran-M + anything compatible and not Ditto = refer to female
  • Nidorino + Ditto = Nidoran-F (Gen 5+) or Nidoran-M
  • Nidorino + anything compatible and not Ditto = refer to female
  • Nidoking + Ditto = Nidoran-F (Gen 5+) or Nidoran-M
  • Nidoking + anything compatible and not Ditto = refer to female

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I some how thought I was going to get lost but I  actually stood most everything you explained and I appreciate you taking your time to answer my question! I also thank you for trying your best to make this as simple as it can get. Thank you very much !
No problem! Glad it makes more sense :)
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Nidoran♂ and Nidoran♀ are in the Field and Monster egg groups. So any Pokémon in those egg groups (especially those I just mentioned) can breed. Just DO NOT breed their evolutions, Nidorino/Nidoking and Nidorina/Nidoqueen respectively, as they are in the Undiscovered egg group and cannot breed.

Nidorino/Nidoking can breed though. Only Nidorina and Nidoqueen can't breed.
Well, I meant they can't breed together.
So the middle evolution of Nidoran(male and female) can or can not breed together? Or is it only the first evolution of the Pokémon (opposite gender) which can breed? Also I do believe I heard back than people saying the final evolution of the pokes are said that they can't breed because of there egg grouping?

 Please correct me if I am wrong.
You are correct. Nidoran male and female can both breed together and with others in the Field and Monster egg groups. Nidoran/Nidoking and Nidorina/Nidoqueen cannot breed, not even with eachother as they are in the Undiscovered egg group.
@JasonE oh ok I get it now!!

Thank you very much for explaining this to me!!
You are very welcome.