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My team is

Goodra @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Gooey
EVs: 252 Def / 252 Spd / 6 HP
Careful Nature
- Infestation
- Toxic
- Rest
- Ice beam

Scizor @ King's Rock
Ability: Techincian
EVs: 252 Atk / 100 Def / 100 HP / 52 Spd
Careful Nature
- Bullet Punch
- Acrobatics
- Swords Dance
- Quick Attack

Mawile @ Mawilite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Def / 6 HP
Adamant Nature
- Power-Up-Punch
- Play Rough
- Sucker Punch
- Iron Head

Talonflame @ Expert Belt
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 6 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Brave Bird
- Acrobatics
- Bulk Up

Tyranitar @ Quick Claw
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Def / 6 HP
Adamant Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance

Snorlax @ Chople Berry
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 Atk / 100 Def / 100 HP / 52 HP
Relaxed Nature
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Power-Up-Punch
- Substitute

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this is very hard to read. format it like this:

pokemon @ item
Trait: (it's ability)
EVs: 252 atk/ 252 Spe/ 4 def (just an example)
 - move 1
 - move 2
 - move 3
 - move 4
I agree with tazzie
Thanks I will take it into account about items and my moveset will change it's just a beta

3 Answers

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I'm a UU (underused) user, so I can't really say too much about OU teams, but your team looks pretty decent. Your Scizor might want to learn some more STAB moves though. If you already have Bullet Punch, you might want to replace Quick Attack with somthing else, like U-Turn or X-Scissor. I also wouldn't suggest Acrobatics unless Scizor was either a Flying-type (STAB) or wasn't holding anything. If it weren't for Swords Dance, I'd've suggested a Choice Band, but King's Rock would work too. Also, if your Goodra is going to have Rest, I'd suggest a Lum Berry. Snorlax knows Sleep Talk on the other hand, so it shouldn't be an issue. Your Goodra might also want to learn a Dragon-type move over Ice Beam for STAB. Using a Quick Claw with anything (such as Tyranitar) can be a bit of risky luck too. Snorlax with Chople Berry probably isn't needed due to its good HP and defensive stats. Scizor's nature and EVs look a bit iffy too.

Other than what I've posted above, your team has some pretty good movesets, which seem to work well with abilities. Really, the biggest problem here is the choice of items, but your team still looks like it could work well.

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Bug Bite > X-Scissor cause of Technician.
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Team looks great. Just a few things.

~Lum berry with Goodra if you keep rest, Assault vest if you get rid of Rest.~
~Also, I am a little confused as to what Goodra's function is on your team. He is the common wall, so I am wondering why he is EV'd in speed. Give him Sp. D or HP EVs.~
~If you have Acrobatics on Talonflame w/ Expert Belt, its power is a wimpy 55. I like a Choice banded Talonflame, or -to throw try something different- an eject button and switch into a Hydration Goodra~
~Same thing with Scizor, get rid of Acrobatics and QA. I like Scizor with X-Scissor for STAB and Roost for recovery. ~

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Bug Bite > X-Scissor cause of Technician.
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I am confused. The set doesn't take the advantages of Goodra. Try out a more offensive Goodra:

Goodra @ Assault Vest:
Trait: Hydration / Gooey
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Sp.Atk / 4 Sp.Def
Modest Nature

  • Dragon Pulse
  • Fire Blast
  • Ice Beam
  • Focus Blast

Defensive calcs shows that Mega-Mewtwo Y will have to 4HKO Goodra with Ice Beam while running this set. Not as offensive, but in fact, Goodra's true strenght is in its defensive stats. Still, the set can work gorgeously well as it has so much diverse coverage. The sole and only Pokémon who will totally wreck this set as well as Goodra is...

Azumarill. That's why you will need a solid counter.


Again, unless you run Scizorite, there are truly no reasons not to chose Adamant Choice Band, so here we go:

Scizor @ Choice Band:
Trait: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 Sp.Def
Adamant Nature

  • Bullet Punch
  • Bug Bite
  • Pursuit / U-Turn
  • Superpower / U-Turn


It will have to go, because another mega will be needed. Replace it with Gliscor.

Gliscor @ Toxic Orb:
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Atk
Adamant Nature

  • Substitute
  • Stealth Rock
  • Swords Dance
  • Earthquake

Not to use against flying.


The Bulk Up set is not as strong as its other sets. Go for:

Talonflame @ Liechi Berry / Salac Berry / Sharp Beak / Sky Plate:
Trait: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Atk / 208 Speed / 48 HP
Adamant Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Brave Bird
- Swords Dance
- Natural Gift / Roost

Item variety. If you run Natural Gift which now has a nice 80 BP, then Liechi Berry will make it Grass to attack Rotom-W, your counter, and Salac Berry will counter Heatran and Tyranitar with the Fighting typing.
As for the two other items, they are basically the same, but I list them both if needed. You will not run Berries without Natural Gift. Roost is to run without Berries. Capiche ?
Ah, and this is le Wallbreaker Set de Talonflame.


Why ? Your team is nowhere close to be a Sandstorm team. Remeber the counter to Azumarill which is needed ? It will replace Tyranitar.

Venusaur @ Venusaurite:
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Sp.Atk/ 4 Sp.Def
Modest Nature

  • Synthesis
  • Giga Drain
  • Sludge Bomb
  • Hidden Power Fire

Tank Set.


Its presence is very random and useless. Florges will be better for your team:


Florges @ Leftovers:
Trait: Flower Veil
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Sp.Def / 4 Sp.Atk
Calm Nature

  • Toxic
  • MoonBlast
  • Wish
  • Protect

Support +Toxic Stall.

Good Luck :D

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I'd totally upvote if I could.
I have used this team in pokemon showdown and it dominates  the majority of time. Awesome team. Also, not many people run Florges in OU, but it's a huge threat with it's Sp. Defensive bulk/ toxic stall, while still being able to dish out a fairly powerful moonblast if need be.