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Just so you know i can't get egg moves or Gen four tutors so im stuck to using Black and White TMs and HMs or level up(Excluding Crobat,Magmortar, and Gallade) (Also thanks Mew for teaching me how to put in sprites)

Luxray (M) @ Flame Orb


EVs: 128 HP / 252 Atk / 128 Speed

Jolly Nature:(+Speed, -Sp. Attack)

Thunder Wave
Thunder Fang

Cacturne (M) @ DarkGlasses

Trait:Water Absorb

EVs: 128 SDef / 252 Atk / 128 Speed

Lonely Nature:(+Attack, -Defense)

Sucker Punch
Faint Attack
Leech Seed

Crobat (M) @ Poison Barb

Trait:Inner Focus

EVs: 240 Atk / 252 Speed / 16 HP

Naughty Nature:(+Attack, -Sp. Def)


Mamoswine (M) @ Leftovers

Trait:Thick Fat

EVs: 252 Sp.Def / 252 Atk / 4 HP

Sassy Nature:(+Sp. Defense, -Speed)

Ice Fang
Ice Shard

Magmartor (M) @ Charcoal

Trait:Flame Body

EVs: 252 Sp. Atk / 252 Speed / 4 HP

Modest Nature:(+Sp. Attack, -Attack)

Sunny Day
Fire Blast

Gallade (M) @ Leftovers


EVs: 252 Atk / 230 Speed / 26 HP

Adament Nature:(+Attack, -Sp. Attack)

Leaf Blade
Close Combat
Stone Edge
Psycho Cut

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ill edit explanations in the morning if needed im heading off to bed its 12:43 AM here
But you never did....
"If needed"
oh. opps

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Okay, this is a pretty nice Team you have here. I hope you can get the Egg Move I will recommend here for a replacement of Luxray. Luxray seems off here since it has the Attacking power, but it is too Slow to start a Sweep and too frail to take a Hit. Here we go now.


As I said in the beginning, Luxray seems off in this Team and I suggest replacing it. It's too frail and slow to do anything at all. If you suggest to keep it, replace it Swagger with Ice Fang if possible. If not, I suggest replacing Luxray with:


Tentacruel can outspeed and sweep while supporting your Team with Toxic Spikes and Rapid Spin! It can also take a hit on the Special Side with that amazing 120 base Sp. Defense. I suggest this for Tentacruel:

[email protected] Black Sludge

Trait: Liquid Ooze

EVs: 252 HP, 212 Sp. Defense, 46 Speed

Nature:(-Attack +Defense)

  • Toxic Spikes
  • Rapid Spin(Egg Move)
  • Scald
  • Ice Beam

Tentacruel supports your Team with Toxic Spikes which helps Crobat a lot and Rapid Spin support which is nice. Black Sludge is double Leftovers recovery. EVs give it bulk on the Special Side. That is my recommended Tentacruel.


Cacturne is pretty good. Switch Cacturne's Nature to Adamant because you need that extra Power. Replace Faint Attack with Swords Dance for double the power and replace Payback with Needle Arm for Grass STAB. Give it a Focus Sash as an Item.


Crobat needs a change. You have the Toxic+Venoshock strategy but you are running Physical Moves with a bad Nature. Replace it with:

[email protected] Life Orb

Trait: Inner Focus

EVs: 252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP

Modest Nature:(-Attack +Sp. Attack)

  • Venoshock
  • Giga Drain
  • Heat Wave
  • Taunt/U-Turn

That is better. Life Orb makes these moves more powerful. Choice Specs is an option but not recommended. Because of Tentacruel, Toxic is no longer needed on Crobat and can run Venoshock. Giga Drain covers Rock Types. Heat Wave covers Steel Types. Taunt makes it a great stall Breaker. U-Turn is for switching out.


Really good Mamoswine! Just replace Reflect with Rock Slide to make it perfect.


I suggest Magmortar be replaced because of that Speed. Also because it is outclassed at what it does and it has a limited Movepool resulting in running bad Moves. I suggest replacing it with:


Volcarona has a better Movepool than Magmortar and it outclasses it as a Special Sweeper by a lot. i recommend this Moveset for Volcarona:

[email protected] Leftovers

Trait:Flame Body

EVs:252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP

Modest Nature:(-Attack +Sp. Attack)

  • Quiver Dance
  • Bug Buzz
  • Fiery Dance
  • Psychic

Standard Volcarona.Quiver Dance boosts its only needed stats, Fiery Dance and Bug Buzz are its primary STAB. Psychic covers the Fighting Types that carry Stone Edge.


Nothing is wrong with Gallade specifically, but i want to try out this Galllade:

[email protected] Leftovers

Trait: Steadfast

EVs: 240 HP, 224 Sp. Defense, 46 Speed

Careful Nature:(-Sp. Attack +Sp. Defense

  • Bulk Up
  • Drain Punch
  • Shadow Sneak(Move Tutor)
  • Substitute

I'm sure you have heard of this set, so try it.

Good Luck with Your Team :)

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Yes, FEAR Gallade is good :)
i like it but would it still work if the cacturne loses its current ability as it it is DW and if i breed i might not get that ability back
Yeah of course xD

The moves I suggested:TM and a Level Up move :)
yea but still i will need to change the nature
why not teach tentacruel surf instead of scald? you already have toxic spikes AND ice beam for status inflicting, and surf gets about 105 power with STAB. Also, in double battles, i recommend opening with tentacruel and cacturne. tentacruel because it's your sweeper (duh) and cacturne becuause of water absorb. since most people prefer to tank/sweep with fire types, theres 3 reasons this will work :
1) Tentacruel will annihilate any fire type within 10 miles of it with surf.
2) Fire types will give priority to wiping off cacturne for a multiude of reasons. (maybe teach cacturne toxic spikes instead of tentacruel? that way you get place for Scald, or if you want to tank as well, barrier.)
3) While Tentacruel is busy cleaning the floor with fire types, water absorb will also replenish cacturne's health.

good luck, and i hope this helped! ^^
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Luxray: Give it: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd as it is not too fast. Sweepers kinda need extra Speed. Keep Crunch, Thunder Wave, and Thunder Fang and ditch Swagger. Get Luxray happy for Return.

Cacturne: I see you are going for Physical. Ditch Lonely and give it Adamant. No point in lowering Defense if you Special Attack isn't being used. Moveset looks okay, but I would go for 1 of these 4 sets.
SubSeed: Leech Seed, Substitute, Cotton Spore, Sucker Punch with Leftovers
A slight variation J98's autokill set: Cotton Spore, Destiny Bond, Needle Arm, Sucker Punch with Focus Sash and 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Spd and Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
All out Physical: Cotton Spore, Needle Arm, ThunderPunch/Brick Break, Sucker Punch with Focus Sash and 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd with Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
All out Special: Cotton Spore, Energy Ball, Focus Blast, Hidden Power [Fire/Ice] with Focus Sash and 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd with Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)

Crobat: Toxic and Venoshock? Good strategy. But, Venoshock is Special, while the rest of your moves are Physical.
Special: Toxic, Venoshock, Giga Drain, Air Slash with 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd with Modest (+SAtk -Atk) with Black Sludge. Breed a male Natu/Xatu from the Dream World that knows Giga Drain with a female Crobat/Golbat/Zubat to get a Zubat with Giga Drain.
Physical: Brave Bird/Acrobatics, Cross Poison, X-Scissor, Bite with 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd with Adamant (+Atk -SAtk) with Flying Gem Breed a female Honckrow, Braviary, Starly, Staravia, Staraptor, Swanna, Ducklett, or Farfetch'd with a female Crobat/Golbat/Zubat to get a Zubat with Brave Bird

Mamoswine: Give it: Ice Shard, Earthquake, Stone Edge, and Ice Fang and Choice Band with 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def and Adamant (+Atk, -SAtk)

Magmortar: If Magmortar can't set up sun, then what? I would go for a straight foward Special sweep with Fire Blast, Thunderbolt, Hidden Power [Grass] and Focus Blast/Psychic with Wise Glasses/Life Orb. Give it Timid (+Spd, -Atk).

Gallade: I would go for:
Crit: Leaf Blade, Night Slash, Psycho Cut, and Stone Edge with Scope Lens
Or: Replace Leaf Blade on your set for Shadow Sneak
To get Shadow Sneak, breed a male Shuppet, Banette, Spiritomb, Duskull, Dusknoir, Dusclops with Shadow Sneak with a female Ralts, Kirlia, or Gardevoir until you get a male Ralts with Shadow Sneak.

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If you can't switch natures, keep the nature and give it the EVs.
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Gallade: Give it a Razor Claw if on WiFi. And cut back on the Speed unless you are going to Scarf it and give it some Sp. Def EVs.

Luxray: Why the Flame Orb? Lowers your physical for no reason. Give it a Life Orb.

Magmortar: Who else would make use of that sun? Mamoswine would be even more vulnerable to fire. I suggest a physical set:

Magmortar @ BrightPowder
Adamant nature
EVs 255 Atk 130 Spd 125 HP

  • Thunderpunch
  • Fire Punch
  • Smokescreen
  • Confuse Ray

Tell me if I'm missing something there, I have a feeling I do and I'm still tired.

Mamoswine: Pretty good, bro.

Cacturne: Replace Payback with Needle Arm for more variety. And Faint Attack with either Swords Dance, Spikes, or Brick Break.

Crobat needs Acrobatics, U-Turn, Pursuit, and Steel Wing. I really just randomly threw that one out there. Don't really know a good set for it.

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Burn will not lower Attack if you have Guts. You are wasting some EVs on Magmortar.
Gallade is meant to be fast so i can sweep and if i scarf him i cant switch moves; like mew said burn doesnt lower attack when the pokemon has guts it raises it; Magmortar is a last resort pokemon when all my other faint thats when i will use sunny day and sweep; Cacturne is to Leech Seed then STAB attack them to one of them faints; And Crobat is toxic then stall with Venoshock and Fly
But thanks anyways