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What is a good moveset for Umbreon?

5 votes

Mine knows:

Payback: STAB, works well with Curse, high accuracy.
Curse: Increases Attack and Defense, also lowers Speed, making this really useful with Payback.
Toxic: Inflicts bad poison.
Wish: More reliable way of healing than Moonlight.

Umbreon learnset

asked Aug 20, 2010 by trachy
edited Jul 9, 2011 by DarkTyphlosion
Umbreon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Heal Bell
- Wish
- Curse
- Payback
bold nature
screech ( for attack issue)
protect ( for left overs and it has toxic soit's healing while hurting)
bite ( STAB plus it's other moves are better so bite is just for flinching plus screech)
So, my Umbreon can only learn curse by breeding? If I have a level 50 Umbreon that doesn't knows curse, I'm done?
Yes, Clecerebro Umbreon only Learns Curse from Breeding...

30 Answers

6 votes

My favorite dark type. For a wall, you can use:

Toxic-Walls need this move
Mean look-Traps foe
Payback-Works well with low speed
Protect/curse/wish-protect for further stalling, curse to power payback, or wish to heal Umbreon

or you can make him a passer

Baton pass-passes to partners
wish-is baton passable, and because of umbreon's low speed, they switch in without getting hit
Toxic-poisons, duh
Mean look /Curse/double team -mean look is baton passable, curse if you are willing to give up speed.

I like to use the 1st or the 3rd one.


Confuse ray-Further annoyance
curse-powers up umbreon
Trump card/Faint attack/Payback-Trump card has incredible amounts of damage after cursing. faint attack has okay power, and has infinite accuracy. there's also the move payback, but I suggested the others because confusion may keep your opponent from hitting you, meaning you don't get double power.

answered Aug 20, 2010 by DarkTyphlosion
Well this could be at Gen 4 or lower.
Alright, touché.
I would chose Assurance over Payback. Assurance does 60 damage instead of 50 and they both have the same amount of PP.
this may be late but im pretty sure curse doesnt affect trump card
 also @angeloid umbreon is slow and bulky so if he takes a hit it goes to 100, while assurance is when they take a hit
4 votes

Umbreon (F) @ Life Orb

Trait: Synchronize

EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SAtk

Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)

  • Dark Pulse
  • Psychic
  • Moonlight
  • Hidden Power [Fighting]

Dark Pulse for STAB, Psychic covers a few types including fighting type weakness, Moonlight for healing,
Hidden Power Fighting gives coverage against steel types as well as other dark types.

answered Sep 3, 2011 by Hex
edited Sep 5, 2011 by Hex
Nice moveset analysis, Hex, never thought Umbreon could be an offensive Special Attacker.  Usually, a lot of times, people usually have Umbreon a typical bulky Dark-Type such as Impish, Bold, Calm, or even Careful natures, but Modest works too.  Hmm, wonder how an Adamant Umbreon would have its movesets?
No problem, you would make a great Pokemon organizer in the Battle Factory for an Umbreon moveset. :)
2 votes

Switch force Umbreon

Toxic/wish/moonlight-Toxic wears away at health, wish restores health, as does moonlight (which works wonders on sun teams)

Confuse Ray-confuses foe. Helps force switches.

Taunt-Forces foe to attack. Works nicely with confuse ray and payback

Payback-Works nicely with taunt

answered Jul 9, 2011 by DarkTyphlosion
2 votes

A slight variation on Umbreon, but a useful one nonetheless.

Item: Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 208 HP / 48 Def / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)

  • Curse
  • Wish/Moonlight
  • Payback
  • Snatch

Normally Snatch isn't all that great, but this set makes good use of it, working with the fact that most people don't like Umbreon because it's very easy to set up on. Curse is there to pad up his defense and attack, while payback is his attacking move. His HP is much higher than the typical Umbreon, so this helps with wish when he wants to help out a teammate. Most people try to set up stat boosters or substitute on Umbreon and try to go for a clean kill, but snatch is there to mess all that up. If it manages to steal a substitute, more than likely, Umbreon is pretty healthy, because they would have finished you off if you were weak. Snatch can let it take substitutes for itself while still being able to set up uninterrupted. If you want, you could replace Curse with Baton pass to help teammates even more, and payback into heal bell if you weren't afraid of being taunted. He can steal Whirlwinds and roars to preventing pseudo phasing, and since he's not interrupted with cursing, even some fighting types have trouble getting through him without a lucky critical hit.

answered Sep 18, 2011 by DarkTyphlosion
edited Sep 18, 2011 by DarkTyphlosion
I like your move set and I think it could work out well, but I noticed that the nature is Calm and lowers your Attack. Wouldn't having a Careful nature make more sense since you still get the Special Defense raise without having to sacrifice Attack?
Sure, go for it.
I think that this helps, my opinion is that Moonlight, Curse, and Payback are good. I just think that it would be better to have toxic instead o f snatch
1 vote

Gen V

Umbreon (M) @ Leftovers

Trait: Inner Focus

EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SDef

Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)

  • Curse
  • Payback
  • Toxic
  • Wish
answered Jun 19, 2011 by trachy
Lol, Trachy's opinion on umbreon hasn't changed..
1 vote

Gen V

Umbreon (M)

Item- Leftovers

Ability- Synchronize

Ev's- 252 Def. 252 Sp.Def 4 HP

Nature- Relaxed (- Sp. + Def) or Sassy (- Sp. + .Sp.Def)


  • Curse
  • Payback
  • Wish
  • Baton Pass

Umbreon should have Synchronize because if you get frozen your opponent could get frozen too, which means that u both can't do any damage to each other ( unless the Pokemon switches out).
Also if u use Curse then Baton Pass it to a Dusknoir or something it will have some serious bulk.

answered Feb 8, 2012 by Spark Pichu
1 vote

Bulky pursuit predicting Umbreon
Cat of doom (Umbreon)@ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
Nature: Adamant (+Atk -Sp.Atk)
EVs: 252 HP/ 128 Def /128 Sp.Def
- Screech
- Confuse Ray
- Taunt
- Pursuit

You can do two things with this Umbreon: 1) Use Screech, which lowers your opponents defence by two stages. Then you use Pursuit. Now your opponent will switch, or stay, which means your opponent either faces an attack with lowered defences, or a doubled power attack with lowered defences. (I got this idea from the good move combinations page) 2) Use Confuse Ray, then Taunt, which is very annoying. Predict when they switch, and you can deliver a powerful Pursuit. And if they stay, just keep using Screech to make them hurt themselves more. And all the while, you're being healed by the Leftovers! You can have a lot of fun with this Umbreon set.

answered Jun 1, 2014 by The Noby
Theory is good, but if you know what's coming then it's easily played around. Maybe like, surprise factor first time round. After that, it's useless against a smart player
Well confuse ray, taunt and screech will probably get you a long way even if they've seen you use it previously in the battle. But when using this set, and you think it needs something else, just play around with the evs to make them more in attack, and give it another move.
0 votes

I like this moveset the best

  • Ability: Synchronize
  • Item: Leftovers
  • Payback
  • Curse- boost stats and works well with payback
  • Moonlight- heals HP
  • Confuse Ray- will stall the opponent while u power up
answered Jun 26, 2011 by mblinginballer
Nice, wonder what nature could go with this moveset?  Maybe Adamant/Impish perhaps?
Confuse Ray is nice but, I would use Toxic because it damages your opponent every turn while confuse ray doesn't every turn. Also toxic doesn't go away if its switched out like confusion does.
0 votes

Sun Umbreon
200hp 252def 56spdef
.confuse ray- confuses the foe and can damage them as well as can damage and prevent attacks
.toxic-badly poisons foe
.moonlight-recovery but in sun recovers 3/4 max hp
.protect-i find this usefull online because you free heeling b.counters opponents with moves like stone edge to run out of pp c.revenge to outrage users-there moves wasted and confusion

so umbreon has great walling abilitys (great hp great def and extremely good spdef) but IMO
putting to many evs into spdef is a waste because most spmoves are usually psychic (no effect) and water and ghost which will both do 1/2 damge due to resistant and sun
this set is good when i use it online though it does have 2 problems taunt (not that common) and fighting

answered Feb 8, 2012 by Blobyolo
0 votes



.252hp 252def 4atk


Protect -stalling and heeling
Sucker punch -Priority
Toxic -stalling
Confuse Ray -more stalling

Similar to my other set just with more style.
Sucker punch may seem a weird idea but payback is less reliable in my opinion.
Payback meens your going to want to go last but when your about to die to lets say alakazams focus blast you do want priority so thats why sucker punch is there.
Also for the reason that if your going to die you may as well do a bit more before they atk.

The rest is rather self explanitry i love using confuse ray its much better than swagger plus it adds to the stalling effect.
If they are confused they are likely poisoned as well which goes well with protect.

answered Mar 17, 2012 by Blobyolo
0 votes

Baton pass set.
Evs. 252 Defence 252 hp. 4 sp. defence
Jolly nature
Baton pass
Double team
Work up

First turns use double team. Then when evasiveness is at max wish. Finish up by working up and doin the pass.

answered Aug 7, 2012 by Absol
0 votes

Defiantly in my Top 10 best Pokemon!

Umbreon @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Heal Bell
- Wish
- Detect
- Payback


Umbreon @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Wish
- Payback
- Last Resort
- Detect

Start with Wish, then Payback, then Detect stall (HP) then Last resort!

answered Oct 10, 2012 by Chewy
0 votes

A favourite of mine.

Gen. IV

Trait: Synchronize
Careful Nature: (-Sp.Atk)(+Sp.Def)
EVs: 252 Def / 252 Sp.Def / 4 Atk

Payback - STAB, Accurate, Works with the fact that there's no EV investment in Spd.
Confuse Ray - Causes foe to damage themselves, prevents Umbreon from being hit.
Double Team - Reduces the chance that Umbreon will be hit. Even if he is hit he can shrug off even most super effective hits when at full HP.
Spite - PP reduction.

The combination of Confuse Ray and Double Team keep Umbreon pretty well protected. If a worrying move gets used, just reduce the PP using Spite so that it doesn't get used again. Payback can actually be quite powerful, most people expect to be battling a tank rather than an offensive Pokemon when they see Umbreon, and can cause the foe to to switch after taking a couple of powered up Paybacks as a result of low Spd. Synchronize ensures that paralysis is passed on to foes, which can be extremely annoying in combination with confusion or hightened evasiveness, or that poison at least has an upside. For items I find Sitrus Berry, Leftovers or BrightPowder to work the best, although Lum berry could be good to avoid sleep/poison which tend to mean KO for this set.

answered Dec 10, 2012 by K73
edited Jan 21, 2013 by K73
Seems good, but spite is a bit strange
0 votes

Not sure if this is a great moveset, but this is what I use and it seems to work pretty well for me.

Item: Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)

  • Toxic (obvious reasons)
  • Substitute (gives it some extra protection)
  • Moonlight (recover from substitute)
  • Payback (STAB, works well with sassy nature)

Sassy nature probably isn't the best but it's what my Umbreon has so I decided to make the best of it by using Payback. I thought about using something like Double Team or Amnesia instead of Payback and just let Toxic do all the work, but I'm just too scared of the MeanLook + Taunt combo and also it would be forced to switch out against poison types and loose any stat buffs it has anyway.

answered Dec 27, 2012 by CC hello
0 votes

i'm about to get umbreon! i'm so exicited!!! he will make a great addition to my team so I plan on giving him this moveset

  • baton pass(great when in a pinch and great for passing stats)
  • work up(rasing attack and special attack it can pass them to any one which means I could pass stats to an aggron so if you teach him surf or thunderbolt it gives him an extra boost!)
  • psychic(protect against fighting)
  • dark pulse(STAB and can flinch giving him a bit of stalling)

I think this is a good mix of every thing down below so I kind of get the best of both worlds.

answered Jan 2, 2013 by samurisceptile
0 votes

My set up has:
4 hp/ 252 def. / 252 sp def
item: leftovers
Mean Look/moonlight- moonlight you want more of a tank, mean look to trap for attacking
confuse ray- annoyance
assurance- good STAB for this moveset
screech- helps boost assurance's power

this moveset is easy to get since I think egg moves can be somewhat of an annoyance to get, is effective and is just annoying if used correctly

answered Jan 19, 2013 by Snipermaster
0 votes

I have a umbreon that I got
substitute-Gives time to stall and heal
Foul Play- lets you use your enemy's attack instead of yours
Moonlight-good heal
Toxic-good stall
Nature-Sassy (i just worked with it (reason there is no payback) yeah)
Item-Life orb (Makes foul play more acceptable to things not weak to dark also if you opponet has bad attack it will make it better)

answered May 11, 2013 by kamdenrocks
0 votes

Umbreon @ Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpDef
~ Toxic
~ Payback
~ Moonlight / Protect / Wish / Baton Pass
~ Moonlight / Protect / Wish / Baton Pass

answered Jul 13, 2013 by Arlington
edited Jul 13, 2013 by Arlington
0 votes

I used this Umbreon in Pokemon online and got some dirty looks :)
Role: wall buff
Nature: Relaxed (+Def/-SpA)
EV: 252Def 252HP 4SpD
Ability: Inner Focus(DW)
Item: Leftovers
Confuse ray (ensures you get some coverage from attacks)
Substitute (Your Wall)
Curse (Buff up)
Faint attack (STAB+ you know you will be slower than your opponent so bite is not a good choice)

answered Aug 15, 2013 by insanekraze
0 votes

Payback- STAB and also since Umbreon isnt that fast 2x the damage -
Moonlight- Personally prefer it over Wish/Heals you right that turn
Confuse Ray- Confuse!!
Toxic- Yay!! Your foe is confused and badly poisoned >.<

answered Aug 15, 2013 by AbsoLoveer97