Question

so im back from thailand and back with a whole lot of questions ;)

im planning a very simple team- overused pokemon but very unordinerry movesets such as :

charizard with a physical moveset, special tank ninetails (DW) and more ...

anyway i wanted to make 2 electivires- one is the most overused as it can get which is physical and the other one a little unpreddictable special vire (although it is sometimes used)

baseclly im looking for not overused physical moveset with an unpredictable move on it and an untippycal special set for him

hopeing you guys have something good for me :)
and thanks

Comments

Electivire is UU and Charizard is RU by the way in our new tiers

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really ? well still thh people who do use them have the same movesets and i dont want to be like everyone im useing diffrent movesets and roles for my pokemon

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The predictability of the physical Vire is because it hits 100% coverage, any alteration would be pointless.

Answer 1

Spec Vire Attempt:
Electivire (M) @ Wise Glasses/ Expert Belt / Choice Specs
Trait: Motor Drive
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Discharge/ Thunderbolt/ Thunder / Volt Switch
- Flamethrower
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Basically, the first slot is your choice of Stab Attack: Discharge has the 30% para chance, T-Bolt is a standard beam-class attack, Thunder has a high power, and is best in Rain, Volt Switch hits pretty hard and makes Vire act as a scout. Flamethrower hits resistant Grass types and Ferrothorn, Forretress or Scizor. Focus Blast has a 5 type coverage, and it hits hard, not much else to use for a spec attacker. HP Ice covers ground weakness, and gives a psuedo Bolt-Beam coverage.

Physical, sorry it's standard:

Electivire (M) @ Expert Belt/ Life Orb / Choice Scarf
Trait: Motor Drive
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
- Wild Charge
- Cross Chop / Brick Break
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake

Seriously, this is a high power moveset, and it hits everything except like 3 pokemon for Super Effective damage... There is no reason not to use it.
The only attack variable on this set is the fighting move, Cross Chop has a high crit ratio and more power, Brick Break is more accurate and breaks through screens.
The item is another variable: Expert belt increases SE damage by 20%. Life Orb increases all damage by 30%, but hits a 10% Hp recoil after every attack, Vire has no recovery, something to think about. Choice Scarf adds 50% power to one move, and locks you in, basically it revenge kills, but makes you predictable.

Comments

I would have to agree on this one. Physical Electivire is really predictable, but he's still very effective. Plenty of pokemon are like that. (Excadrill, Serperior, and Machamp to name a few) Doberman, If you're still looking for a special sweeping electric type, might I suggest something like Jolteon, Raikou, Thunderus, or Magnezone? All of those guys can do a great job with special sweeping.

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Why Naughty? that lowers S.def. Why not Adamant or Jolly?

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Yeah Jolteon with a Jolly Nature can seriously wipe the floor with most pokemon. give it focus blast and discharge.