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wanted to try a sun team as well.

Aerodactyl @ Life Orb
Trait: Pressure
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
252 Spd/ 252 Atk/ 4 HP
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock

Dedicated lead. Obviously Sun teams tend to be severely weak to Stealth Rock, so Dactyl has the Spd to Taunt an opposing Hazard lead, lay down its own Rocks, then with Life Orb, Earthquake, and STAB Stone Edge, proceed to mess stuff up. Predictable doesn't matter if you can't stop it.

Breloom @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
252 Atk/ 248 Spd/ 16 SDef
- Drain Punch
- Spore
- Solar Beam
- Mach Punch

This thing is evil. Spore with Drain Punch and Poison Heal gives Breloom surprising bulk, and Mach Punch can rip through Rock and Steel types that switch in to counter others. Solarbeam stops it from being walled by Gliscor and Slowbro. Pure Evil.

Ninetales @ Focus Sash
Trait: Drought
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
252 SAtk/ 180 Spd/ 66 HP
- Overheat
- Solarbeam
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Toxic

sets up Sun, Toxic's the opponent, and Solarbeam/Overheats the crap out of anything that gets chucked at it.

Starmie @ Life Orb
Trait: Natural Cure
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
252 SAtk/ 252 Spd/ 4 SDef
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Psychic
- Rapid Spin

Spinner. uses the fact that its a Water type to be a more effective Spinner than certain Steel/Bug or Steel/Grass types that usually occupy this role. HP Fire gives it a Sun boosted attack, as well as a nasty Surprise for Grass types dumb enough to switch in.

Arcanine @ Life Orb
Trait: Flash Fire
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
252 Atk/ 180 Spd/ 66 HP
- Flare Blitz
- Close Combat
- ExtremeSpeed
- Wild Charge

All-Out Physical Attacker. Life Orb boosts power to insane levels, the only thing keeping this puppy in check is its lack of Recovery outside of Rest.

Salamence @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Moxie
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
180 Atk/ 180 SAtk/ 138 Spd
- Outrage
- Fire Blast
- Draco Meteor
- Earthquake

its a Scarfed MoxMence on a Sun Team. i think this is gonna be a very good team. :B

please rate, have never used a real Sun team before.

asked Oct 18, 2012 by SlipperyDevil
edited Oct 18, 2012 by SlipperyDevil
SolarBeam on Breloom?
I give up.
**Wonders why Mew said that.** **Goes on Smogon, and checks Breloom's SAtk**. **Sees 60. Barfs**.
That was a play about why you should not use SolarBeam on Breloom.
Produced by JCM & the DramaBase Inc.
i only threw Solarbeam out there because Slowbro was killing me. i was going to use Seed Bomb but Physical walls were soaking it up after a boost or two no problem.
You killed the name of the all might breloom
All refer to you as Z3R0 now kay?
Anyhow, when are you going to get Pokemon Online dude?
Solarbeam has been replaced with Seed Bomb.

Enoch: when i fix my PC

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OK I'm sick and I'm attempting my second answer now after my browser randomly linked me to a shopping site about Chickens, don't know why that happened -__- so I'm sorry if this is a bit sloppy but ill try answer to the best of my abilities.


Aerodactyl
Not fitting it really you already have a spinner and most leads are weather leads who have no problem taking this Pokemon out.
You want a Stealth Rock abuser who can last the duration of the game.

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 208 HP / 252 Atk / 48 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Superpower
- Stealth Rock
- Ice Punch

He has the ability to stay for the duration of the game and deal nice damage/coverage and lay rocks out.
His only problem in sun is opposing sun teams really as most sun teams carry at least one chlorophyll abuser.

Hippowdon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Force
EVs: 252 HP / 52 Atk / 204 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Ice Fang
- Slack Off
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock

Yes this is Hippowdon in sun.
it can function well in any weather and is a good asset with Sand force making sand teams less of a threat.
It can set up rocks and hit rather hard as well as sponge attacks for the team.
Sdef investment is to help it take water attacks and Hp Ice better.
Slack Off is something Swampert lacks.

The choice is up to you really, personally I would choose Swampert but that's biased seen as Swampert is one of my favorite Pokemon.
They both have very similar roles and stats so try them both out.


Breloom
Smogon hasn't updated the Breloom page in a while, you do realize technician is now available?
A Technician set will benefit your team better as you mentioned you are struggling to take out bulky Pokemon.
A Technician set cause sheer Destruction.

Breloom (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Technician
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Bullet Seed
- Mach Punch
- Swords Dance
- Spore

Defintly try this set, a Bullet Seeds minimum Power after technician is 75 close to Seed Bombs 80.
It has a good chance to hit multiple times as well as having a small chance to crit on each bullet.
Jolly is chosen over Adamant in this situation because of Gliscor running 72 speed to out speed the base 70 Pokemon.
It also lets you outs peed Adamant Dragonite and break its Multiscale before hitting multiple other times.
Swords dance is the icing on the cake really, you can sweep entire teams with this set.

But I do understand why you would want to keep your previous set, or at least a similar variation seen as my set is full out attack.

Breloom (F) @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 236 HP / 212 SDef / 60 Spd
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Seed Bomb
- Bulk Up
- Drain Punch
- Spore

This set is similar to yours but is more balanced on the defenses.
Mach Punch isn't a good idea because it has no boost just stab, so you would need a boosting move to preform a sweep.


Ninetails
I don't like Focus Sash though Ninetails isn't the most bulky it needs the offence to pull off the set you are trying to do.
Try this set it has good coverage and will hit anything hard.

Ninetales (M) @ Life Orb/Leftovers
Trait: Drought
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Overheat
- Energy Ball
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Flamethrower

I would personally use Life Orb but then you would need to be extra careful at keeping Starmie up.
Leftovers is a valid option though, the only problem is that it doesn't hit hard enough.
Hidden Power Fighting is coverage against Tyranitar and Heatran on the switch in.
Though it isn't a OHKO on either of them but you can switch out and leave them on low health.
Energy Ball is over Solar Beam due to the fact Politoed is a common counter to Ninetails and you don't want to be locked into Solar Beam when Polioeds up with rain.


Starmie
Starmie is fine though Ice Beam is needed, your currently struggling with Grass users which are usually chlorophyll users in Ou, You need to hit them hard on the switch ins.
You may also want to keep Hp fire to counter Gensect and Scizors but psychic is the only good replacement.


Arcanine
Personally I think Arcanine sucks in UU let alone OU.
There are much better Pokemon out there you should defiantly try out.
Unfortunately they don't fit into the team
Your best bet is to use Scizor

Scizor (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 180 HP / 252 Atk / 76 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- U-turn
- Pursuit
- Superpower

Fits in perfect and is great paired with Brelooms Mach Punch.
Bullet Punch with a Choice Band will help you take out Pokemon like Venasur and Thundurus Better even if they resist it.
Swords dance is probably the better choice here but I had the Cband set loaded up on Po already so who cares :D.


Salamance
He fits in very well here, but I am going to suggest Garchomp for the reason that Thundurus Out speeds it.
Garchomp beats both Salamance and Thundurus.
The change is defiantly not needed but would be a good idea.

Garchomp (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Rough Skin
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Stone Edge
- Fire Fang/Fire Blast
- Outrage
- Earthquake

Garchomp helps you counter Jirachi much better avoiding Thunder, being able to Equake it and the fact Iron Head wont touch Garchomp and even if it does its at the expense of the Jirachis Health thanks to Rough Skin.
It out speeds Modest scarf Latios, all in all Garchomp is probably the better choice though you will miss out on Moxie.


Finally I'm finished I hope this helps and good luck in testing.

answered Oct 18, 2012 by Blobyolo
selected Dec 16, 2012 by SlipperyDevil
thanks Blob. i tried out both Breloom sets and i really like both. i think the offensive set might work better since the only stat Breloom has that breaks 310 at max is Atk (394).

Swampert looks good, and i like the SunChomp idea too. thanks