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@ SlipperyDevil New team help?

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Ok so Slip took me on as apprentice and has already helped me a lot (Thanks SOOOOOO much Slip) and has asked me to post this so he and whoever else can help.

Thanks everyone ;)

[oucurrent] Balance Atk Team 01 (notice the 01)

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SDef
Calm Nature
- Rest
- Acid Armor
- Toxic
- Scald

Politoed @ Choice Specs
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Modest Nature
- Focus Blast
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Hypnosis

Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Trait: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Leech Seed
- Power Whip
- Stealth Rock
- Thunder Wave

Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 Atk / 184 HP / 72 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Swords Dance
- Ice Fang
- Brick Break

Mamoswine @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
IVs: 30 Atk / 30 SAtk / 30 Spd
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Icicle Spear
- Body Slam

Volcarona @ Focus Sash
Trait: Flame Body
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
Modest Nature
- Bug Buzz
- Flamethrower
- Giga Drain
- Quiver Dance

It is OK but needs improving. It isn't my best team but soon will be!!! Thanks guys!!!!!!

asked Jan 19, 2013 by Stay_Silent
Vaporeon=missing 252 EVs.

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First thing I noticed; there's nothing on your team that abuses the two 100% moves in rain, Thunder and Hurricane. Dragonite is the most common user of both, gaining STAB from Huurricane, which will be really useful in order to counter Grass types.

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Politoed @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 4 Sp. Def
Calm Nature (or Sassy Nature, if you want to ensure lowest speed possible to have Drizzle prevail)
- Scald/ Hydro Pump
- Protect
- Ice Beam
- Hypnosis/ Toxic

I've seen many offensive Politoeds and I feel as if they bring a major drawback to the team. I know that taking up a team slot with a mediocre Pokemon that is only needed for its ability seems to be a bit of a waste, but I would much rather go for defensive on your weather Pokemon, because as weather is so prevalent in OU, if your weather Pokemon faints your team falls apart. And why would you put Hypnosis on a Choice Specs set?

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Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Ability: Hydration
EVs: 4 HP, 252 Def, 252 Sp. Def
Calm Nature
- Rest
- Heal Bell
- Ice Beam
- Scald

If you have a rain team planned, Hydration is the superior ability on Vaporeon; it will wake up from Rest immediately. Ice Beam to provide coverage, and Heal Bell to provide team support.

This is the set I run on my rain team Vaporeon and I find it works really well.

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Tentacruel @ Black Sludge
Ability: Rain Dish
EVs: 252 Sp. Def, 4 HP, 252 Def
Bold Nature
- Toxic Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Knock Off
- Scald

OR

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Forretress @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 4 Sp. Def
Bold Nature
- Stealth rock
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes/ Toxic Spikes
- Volt Switch

I would replace Ferrothorn with either Forretress or Tentacruel; you don't have a rapid spinner. Tentacruel has Rain Dish and Poison typing, which means that Grass is now x1 and it will absorb Toxic spikes. Forretress is steel so it doesn't have to worry about Toxic Spikes.

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Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 Atk / 184 HP / 72 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Swords Dance
- Ice Fang
- Roost/ Protect

Standard set for Gliscor, not much else to say.

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Mamoswine @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge/ Rock Slide
- Ice Shard
- Body Slam/ Ice Fang

Ice Shard over Icicle Spear, it will give a priority move to Mamoswine and Icicle Spear is only worthwhile with Skill Link. Rock Slide is less powerful than Stone Edge, but has more accuracy.

What role does Volcarona fill on your team? Is it meant to be a Sun counter?

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Volcarona @ Leftovers
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
Modest Nature
- Bug Buzz
- Quiver Dance
- Flamethrower
- Roost/ Giga Drain

Roost is an option; Giga Drain might not be that useful against sun teams because of the fire and grass types that are usually there to abuse it. You can consider Chandelure in preference to Volcarona; it has Flash Fire but more weaknesses than Volcarona.

Other options you can consider are Toxicroak (Dry Skin in rain heals 1/8 of health) and Dragonite (Hurricane and Thunder user).

answered Jan 19, 2013 by fondant
selected May 28, 2013 by Stay_Silent
Dragonite is a common Thunder and Hurricane user? Special Dragonite? 0.0 I don't recall meeting it..
http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/dragonite - 2nd to last set. I've encountered it before on rain teams. Base 100 Sp. Atk isn't shabby, but people just focus on the 134 Atk.
Thanks! Ok I will adjust my team accordingly. I was too lazy at the time to put descriptions in and it was a little vague. I just threw Volcarona in last minute without reason. Politoed had Hypnosis because if I had a disadvantage it could quickly put them too sleep  and gain a free switch. It works well so don't mock it.I think you are right with most of this though and I will add some stuff. Stay tuned!
Yea, but if Hypnosis misses (which it is liable to do), Politoed will be taking a hit. I would much rather see Hypnosis on a non-Choice set. Besides, it's not as if Choice Specs will give Politoed a speed advantage, so if you wanted Choice Specs Politoed, go full out offensive.