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Sunny Side Up -- Sun Team

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Hiiiii. Okay, so this is my sun team. It was going to originally be a rain team, but when I saw Josh's "Sun Toed" set I knew I wanted to use it, so I just added some sun. I've had some trouble picking a sun sweeper but sawsbuck was looking pretty good. Mike suggested SubSeed Venusaur, but I find Jumpluff to fill that roll a bit better & TBH I didn't really want to use jumpluff. (Come to think of it I've never used Jumpluff). Then Spoink suggested Tangrowth but I wanted something faster and more on the physical attacker side considering I have Specs SunToed, and Raikou. Anyways, let's start showing off ze crew.
-- Please give me your suggestions. :7!

@ Choice Specs
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 56 HP / 200 Def / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)

  • Hidden Power [Fire]
  • Focus Blast
  • Psychic
  • Ice Beam

Señor Josh's sun toed set, basically the reason this is a sun team and not rain. Yes, you can feel flattered. :7 ANYWHO. This guy sucks up those water attacks that Ninetales & Claydol don't want to be taking, then hits anything hard with a Specs ____.


@ Life Orb
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)

  • Weather Ball
  • Thunderbolt
  • Aura Sphere
  • Hidden Power [Ice]

My main Special Sweeper, I'm running HP Ground over HP Ice because this set hits 528 Pokemon Super Effectively & 141 Normal Effectivness, where HP Ice would make it 479 Super Effective, and 190 Normal Effectiveness. (This does not include abilities that are taken into effect). Nvm, going to Ice Ground literally no use


@ Leftovers
Trait: Drought
EVs: 252 HP / 124 SDef / 132 Spd
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)

  • Flamethrower
  • Energy Ball
  • Substitute
  • Hypnosis

Puts threats to sleep, Sub's up, Then proceeds to hit pretty much anything hard. Not much explanation here.


@ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)

  • Rapid Spin
  • Earth Power
  • Psyshock
  • Stealth Rock

My Stealth Rocker, Spinner, and EQ stopper. He has great synergy with this team, and if lost, I could possible be in trouble. I'd try the Dual Screen set, but this set is working mighty well. And idk if I should have Ice Beam, or Psychic > Psyshock, so I just went w/ the STAB move.


@ Leftovers
Trait: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)

  • Dragon Dance
  • Dragon Claw
  • Fire Punch
  • Superpower

My go to guy, if I'm having some trouble, Dragonite never fails. & Yes NEVER fails, Not even to Specs Kyurem-W! OOOOOO, lol JK, idk about that. But yeah, pretty standard to say the least.


@ Big Root
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)

  • Wild Charge
  • Swords Dance
  • Horn Leech
  • Nature Power

This last spot caused a lot of problems for me, I wanted a FAST, STRONG, VERSATILE, PHYSICAL sun sweeper. & Sawsbuck kinda fit for me. I'm willing to change this Pokemon completely you just need to justify your reason for such Pokemon. Also, I don't know what item to use, so I just used Big Root for more recovery, since it's pretty frail, and if I can set up a SD I know I'm gonna be taking some BIG DAMAGE!

asked Aug 5, 2012 by Riles
edited Aug 5, 2012 by Riles
Try Jumpluff or Victreebel. Jumpluff is great for trolling with his great Speed with Chlorophyll and Victreebel can be used to sweep.
Riles i would still give Politoad surf for the STAB bonus and cause of specs
Sunflora is a good sun battler in HG SS all its abilitys work in sun weather it can learn sunnys day,solar beam,synthesis and some really good grass moves like leaf storm
Item i forgot would be sun stone.increases sunny weathers last
@Trachy, yeah I'm probably going to do that since that has been one of the problems with this team is that I have to "bluff" the water move, I'll get rid of psychic since it has been the most useless move.

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Okay Riles, I know you said it wasn't working out so well, but you didn't tell me what exactly the problems were, as you won the battle I watched. So I'll just be correcting some of the smaller issues I see in this team. Let's do it :]


Politoed
I don't want to upset TKOR himself, but I'm going to go right out and say it: Politoed without Drizzle is dead weight to you. He's only in OU because of Drizzle. On top of that, he has mediocre special attack and speed, and his water-type STAB is nullified by the sun. So, I have an idea for a replacement, who can fulfil the same role and more.

Gastrodon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Storm Drain
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef / 4 Def
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Scald
- Earthquake
- Toxic
- Recover

This guy is great, he has immunities to Water and Electric, a resistance to Rock, and fantastic special defense to back it up. This makes him one of the most solid checks to weather teams of other kinds that you may have trouble with. Scald is for the burn chance, Earthquake for STAB, and Toxic & Recover for stalling.


Raikou
Looks fine, although keep in mind Raikou with Weather Ball and Aura Sphere must have a Rash nature.


Ninetales
Hmm. Personally, I prefer not relying on the dodgy accuracy of Hypnosis. Also, Ninetales isn't going to be hitting anything very hard with base 81 Special Attack and no investment. I think Nasty Plot would be a better choice for that slot. Otherwise looks good.


Claydol
Perfect! Actually, I might give it Ice Beam instead, I think it's more useful. Not like Claydol's really going to hit hard enough to need his dual STABs.


Dragonite
Superpower's attack drops are kind of counter intuitive for a Dragon Dance sweeper, and the lowered defense make it even easier for Mamoswine and friends to revenge kill you with Ice Shard. So, replace it with Earthquake, Extremespeed, or even Roost to get back to your Scale and come back for a second sweep.


Sawsbuck
Well, Sawsbuck is pretty good. Although I still think you should have chosen Tangrowth :/ jk, but give him Double Edge over Wild Charge, can't believe we forgot about his great second STAB. However, I have thought of some replacements:

Shiftry (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Sucker Punch
- Seed Bomb
- Low Kick

This guy is able to get past two of the biggest pains to sun teams, the Lati twins. I'm pretty sure he OHKOs with Sucker Punch at +2. Also, he has perfect coverage, especially on Heatran, another mon that can be very frustrating to deal with with sun-based pokemon.

Victreebel (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 112 Atk / 144 SAtk / 252 Spd
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Growth
- Leaf Blade
- Sludge Bomb
- Weather Ball

Pretty nice mixed set here, he can get past the blobs, Tyranitar and Politoed with Leaf Blade, and has nearly perfect coverage, but unfortunately he is walled by Heatran, like some others on this team. He does have the advantage over Sawsbuck and Shiftry in not being weak to Mach Punch.


Anyway, that's all I could think of, hope I helped! :]

answered Aug 7, 2012 by Spoink
selected Aug 7, 2012 by Riles