Question

Dex: http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/chandelure

Comments

Likely tier: Uber
This guy is going to be one of the most important Pokemon in the metagame.

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It's UU! Lol (filler).

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Just wait till SHadow Tag chandy is released. Then it will move to its rightful home.

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^ He mean OU right?

Answer 1

With high stats all around where it is important, plus a great ability, this guy is a great Pokemon.

Ability: Shadow Tag

EVs: Sp Attack, Sp Def, Speed Nature: Modest

Will-o-wisp/Toxic: Will-o-wisp makes it a better defender while Toxic is better at taing down foes.

Evil Eye: Because the foe is either burned or poisoned, this STAB move will recieve "much damage."

Flamethrower: Obvious.

Energy Ball: Provides type coverage.

Comments

hmm i dont think this would be such a good idea.. its better to go with energy ball , shadowball , flamethrower and hiddenpower(fighting)/psychic

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Evil Eye is not a real move. And, you cannot have a Chandelure with Shadow Tag quite yet.

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Evil Eye was the known name of the move Hex at the time this was answered. And as for the second, it's called PO.

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LIKE IT

Answer 2

Chandelure (F) @ Choice Scarf

Trait: Shadow Tag

EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 248 Spd

Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)

• Energy Ball
• Flamethrower
• Shadow Ball
• Hidden Power [Fighting]

Comments

Nice revenge killer set, I was about about to post the same one, almost didn't see this LoL

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Not afraid of Heatran?

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eh, i have other things to take care of heatran with.
i get to finish off someone before heatran comes in, and when it does i can't switch move anyway.
i like the coverage against fighting types.

Answer 3

Chandelure (F) @ Choice Scarf

Ability: Shadow Tag

EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spe

Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)

• Shadow Ball
• Fire Blast
• Energy Ball
• Hidden Power Ice

I've been using Chandelure for a long time and still am, And this is probably the best one IMO.

Comments

The King of Ghosts has Spoken.

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Why hidden power ice? HP Fighting is  better surely?

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No, Hidden Power Ice has good use in OU against Gliscor, Landorus, Dragonite etc...

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I wish I could use this on PS....unfortunately, Shadow Tag Chandy is banned currently :(

Answer 4

Shanderaa is now the highest Special Attacker in the games, beating Alakazam. I think I would go for an all-out fast sweeper.

Ability: Flame Body
EVs: Special Attack to the max!! Then max Speed too for sweeping. Perhaps a little in HP to boost defenses.

• Overheat (should KO most pokemon, you can always switch out to reset your Sp.Atk if necessary)
• Energy Ball (covers most weaknesses)
• Shadow Ball (STAB and in lieu of any better moves)
• Psychic (powerful and covers more types)

Or maybe switch in Substitute for the last one, I'm not sure...

Comments

i think get flamethrower over overheat as overheat will harshly lower ur Sp.Atk.. which could prove bad sometime >.<

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No! you gotta love the extra power Overheat gives!!
Same with Fire Blast.

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I suggest:
Overheat ( Pokemaster's reason)
Hex (Burn+Hex= DOUBLE DAMAGE)
Flamethrower (Burn the opponent)
Psychic (Good coverage)

Answer 5

Special Sweeper:

Energy Ball: Covers Weaknesses, Overall Great Move.

Flemthrower/Heat Wave: I Think Shandeeras Sp. Attack is High Enough Where it would be better to use Flamethrower, for the accuracy, but, its your choice:)

Shadow Ball: STAB, Great Move, Covers Ghost.

Calm Mind/Psychic/Nitro Charge: Calm Mind For Raising Sp. Stats, Psychic for Coverage, or Nitro Charge to raise speed while doing damage:)

Heres Another Good Set:

Flamethrower: STAB

Sunny Day: Uh-Huh

Solarbem: Yep:)

Shadow Ball: STAB

Items: Quick Claws for Both Sets, we need speed.

EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Sp. Attack, 4 HP

Nature: Hasty: For A Great Special Tank, and Sweeper at the same time, we get more speed, without lowering sp. defense:)

Comments

only comment ( ik this is late as helllllll)
timid nature! :)

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Not a bad set, but Quick Claw is banned/looked down on in competitive play.

Answer 6

Shadow ball(stab and coverage)
flamethrower(stab)
energy ball(coverage on ground, water, and rock)
calm mind(boosts his already uber S.attack)

ev train S. attack and defensive
nature modest
item meadow plate

Comments

This move covers all weaknesses except dark which cannot be covered do to lack of focus blast

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SF please don't accept any best answers for now, especially not your own ;)

Answer 7

Let's see...

Energy ball-covers grass and ground weakness.

Shadow Ball-STAB, covers ghost weakness.

Overheat-He's probably going to switch a lot, the stat drop is a small price to pay.

Confuse ray/hidden power[fighting]-confuse ray if you feel risky and want more sweeping time, or hidden power fighting to cover the rest of your weaknesses.

this guy doesn't have time to set up with stat boosters, he's strong enough already, so he needs to just go in head on and kill.

Comments

i think you meant covers water and not grass?

Answer 8

Post-Memento Switch In

Chandelure (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Shadow Tag
EVs: 252 SAtk / 36 SDef / 220 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Flame Charge
- Substitute/Calm Mind
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power [Fighting]

Team with Dugtrio. Now you have plenty of time to boost your Speed stat. When you have high enough Speed, you can then either set up Substitute to protect against Sucker Punch (the biggest threat) or you can choose to go for the Heatran and Blissey KO with Calm Mind. Shadow Ball and Hidden Power Fighting get perfect neutral coverage.

Comments

Are u Kidding flame charge On the worst attaker in black!??!?!?!

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Flame-charge is not for damaging, it is for boosting his Speed stat. Think of it as a mini-agility.

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Interesting moveset.

Answer 9

The saddest of all movesets: Physical Chandelure. Yes, you must be like, what are you thinking, he has 55 base Attack! Well check this out, it actually works.

Chandelure @ Life Orb/ Leftovers
Trait: Shadow Tag
EVs: 252 Atk/ 252 Spd/ 4 HP
Adamant Nature (+Atk,-SAtk)

• Swagger
• Psych Up
• Flame Charge
• Astonish/ Frustration/ Return/ Payback/ Giga Impact/ Substitute

Shadow Tag is a huge part of this combo and you will see why. Swagger raises by two stages the foe's Attack and confuses. I normally switch into Blissey or Chansey, as they cannot do a single thing while i keep using Swagger. I then use Psych Up to copy all the Stat raises. Flame Charge is to correct his low Speed and is STAB. The last moveslot is all up to you. Astonish is a terrible move but is some Ghost STAB. Frustration and Return do some decent damage. Payback is just some normal damage. Giga Impact hits tremendously hard but there is that recharging that's very annoying. Last but not least, you could use Substitute on him for blocking Status. Life Orb is the preffered Item for hard-hitting but Lefties can be used for healing the damage that you receive.

P.S: What ever you choose in the last moveslot, Heatran is the best counter. If you choose Substitute, he completely walls you. Fortunately, he is rare in DW Ubers.

Comments

Best set ever.

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Thanks xD

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That is pretty clever.

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cool set. I NEVER thought a Physical set for Chandelure would work. Thanks for convincing me otherwise :)

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Lol, it's a semi-gimmick set, it kind of helped me sweep a guy, but I doubt it's very reliable.

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Counters that are used in uber, Giratina (Normal for last slot), and Tyranitar for both.

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Peeh, I tried =-=

Answer 10

Chandelure (F) @ Life Orb

Trait: Shadow Tag

EVs: 4 HP / 252 Sp.Atk / 252 Spe

Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk)

• Shadow Ball
• Fire Blast
• Energy Ball/Hidden Power Ice
• Pain Split

Shadow Ball is STAB and has accuracy definitely reliable.
STAB Fire Blast hits ridiculously hard coming off of Chandelure's base 145 Sp.Atk stat, And Life Orb boosted.
Energy Ball is used to hit water and rock types, Mainly. Completely destroys Gastrodon and the likes.
Hidden Power Ice hits Dragons for super effective damage, But doesn't really have any other use outside of that.
Pain Split works well with Chandelure's good base 90 defenses and "eh" 60 base HP stats.

Comments

Hahaha, Quiet nature doesn't increase Sp Attack and lower Attack, that is Modest!

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^^'
sorry about that, i edited it a little here in the answer after making it on PO.
Thanks, fixed.

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Who flagged 4Sam's comment?

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Also good on a garchomp

Answer 11

This one screws up for others

Ability:Flash fire/Flame body/Shadow tag( choose whats best for you)
Nature:Calm(+SDef,-Atk)
Item:Choise band
Trick- Switches your useless band for something maybe good and ruins the opponents strategy
Clear smog- Ruins the foes stat changes
Confuse ray- Screws your opponent
Toxic/Will-o-wisp/Pain split- Ether for hurting the opponent or staying in

Comments

I'd try Shadow Tag + Confuse Ray, wicked ;)

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I´d say your right

Answer 12

Ability: Shadow Tag / Flame Body

Nature: Timid / Modest

EVs: spA spD Spe / spA Spe Spd

Item Choice Specs / Choice scarf

Flamethrower / Overheat: Obvious stab, but flamethrower is for the timids who cant take the stat drop.

Energy Ball: Provides type coverage.

Shadow Ball: Stab!

Psychic: For fighting types; some fighting types can learn stone edge, a key weakness to chandelure. This move cripples them.

Answer 13

ability: flash fire

moves:

energy ball---water,rock and ground coverage

psychic/will-o-wisp---more coverage OR helping your defense

flamethrower---STAB

shadow ball/hex---STAB OR hitting a burnt opponent

Comments

daEpad you must include what evs to train in and items.

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I have the same moveset

Answer 14

"I didn't know chandeliers could move so fast!"

Ability: Flash Fire- adds another immunity, increases power of fire moves, and works as a great switch-in
Nature: Timid (+Spe, -Atk)
EVs: 252 SpA, 252 Spe, 4 HP
Item: Life Orb
- Flamethrower/Heat Wave- high power STAB
- Hex- works great with Will-o-wisp and STAB
- Will-o-wisp- burns foe and weakens foes physical attacks
- Energy Ball- eliminates 3 weaknesses

Answer 15

Chandelure (M) @ Wide Lens
Trait: Shadow Tag
EVs: 200 HP / 252 SDef / 52 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Inferno
- Hex
- Telekinesis
- Protect

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Telekinesis and wide lens helps with Inferno, which in turn powers up Hex, giving the foe massive damage. Protect is for the burn to hurt the opponent more, and shadow tag ensures that he cannot switch

Answer 16

Chandelure [LV 70]
[M]
[250 SP]
MODEST (+SATK,-ATK)
[Charcoal]

Flamethrower-STAB Best Move For Chandelure)
Shadow ball-STAB Best Move For Chandelure)
Energy Ball-Great For Deal Water,Rock,Ground)
Calm Mind- Stat Raiser For Its SpAtk)

Answer 17

Inferno( STAB )
Telekinesis (To raise chance of hitting the opponent with Inferno, getting the opponent burned)
Shadow Ball (Lower Defense)
Energy Ball ( Lower Special Defense)

Its an amazing move set tested by moe(Me)

Answer 18

Here's what I'd use:
Strategy: sweeper
Nature: Timid/Modest (Timid for mire speed, Modest for better SP. Attack)
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 SP. Attack, 4 HP

Moves:
Shadow Ball for awesome STAB
Flamethrower, same reason as Shadow Ball
Energy Ball for coverage (dang Blastoises!)
Calm Mind for whenever you get a chance to boost stats
Ability: Flash Fire

Answer 19

My Chandelure:

Trait: Flame Body

Flamethrower - Obvious STAB.
Toxic - Badly poisons foe, goes well with Hex.
Energy Ball - Coverage
Hex - Works well with toxic/ability.

Answer 20

Another moveset:

Item: Eviolite

Curse - Takes half your HP away, but casually damages the foe.
Pain Split - Heals Lampent after using Curse
Toxic - Take down foes
Flamethrower - STAB

Comments

Why eviolite on a Chandelure

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He's talking about Eviolite Lampent.