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What is a good moveset for Vanilluxe?

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It's a gosh-darn ice cream cone!

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The Bliazzard (poor spelling on serebii's behalf, the actual classification, or possibly a mistake by GameFreak.) While it looks weird with that random ting sticking out of it, and the first form in the line looks like Castform, this guy is decent, and I had at one time considered him for my team.

Ability: Ice Body

EVs: Sp Attack, Sp Def, Def Nature: Calm

Hail: WIth healingdue to Ice Body, increasing the power of Blizzard by x1.5 and making it have 100% accuracy and more, plus increasing Sp Def by x1.5, this move has really gotten an upgrade this Gen.

Blizzard: Power increased by Hail, accuracy 100% in hail, and has a 25% chance of breaking through Protect and Detect in Hail. All this adds up to a damn powerful move, especially taking into acount the pretty nice Sp Attack stat.

Body Purge: Not only doubles Speed, but also makes this guy lighter. This provides better protection from Low Kick and Grass Knot. While you will take more damage from Heavy Bomber and Heat STamp, those moves are much less common than Low Kick and Grass Knot (especially Grass Knot.) However, the main point is the Speed boost.

Water Pulse/Flash Cannon: This is a tough choice. Water Pulse deals with Fire and Rock weakness, but has 20 less base power. Flash Cannon has 20 more base power, but only deals with Rock weakness. A very difficult choice.

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What's body purge?
Body Purge is the Japanese name for "Autotomize"
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Hail sweeper:

Suggested ability: Ice Body
Suggested Item: leftovers; life orb
Suggested Nature: Modest

  • Blizzard
  • Water Pulse
  • Hidden power [ground]
  • Autotomize/protect

Pretty basic idea here. He blasts the crap out of enemies with STAB Blizzard, can cover rock, fire, and steel with a single move, and can cover a few other pokemon with water pulse. You can either boost up his speed, or hold out for a few turns to restore his health while damaging your opponent.

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It doesn't need Water Pulse because it already has Hidden Power (Ground), so I strongly recommend that you replace it with the all-important Hail, so it isn't totally reliant on its teammates to bring Hail to the battlefield..
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Ben and Jerry's UU edition:

Suggested ability: Ice body
Suggested item: Leftovers
Suggested nature: Modest/Timid

Blizzard/Ice Beam

  • Blizzard/Ice Beam
  • Taunt
  • Light Screen/Water Pulse/Weather ball
  • hidden power [grass]

This is kind of an anti UU pokemon Vanilluxe. Blizzard and ice beam serve as STAB; use blizzard if you plan on having a hail team. Taunt prevents the opponent from setting up stealth rock, and severely injuring your Vanilluxe later. Light screen offers team support, and makes him even bulkier, water pulse takes out a few common guys like Arcanine. Weather ball can be used to shift the odds in your favor against other weather teams, but it's more situational. Hidden power grass prevents him from being screwed over by bulky waters like Milotic or Suicune.

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Sun Sweeper?(Hope my cone doesn't melt)

Item: Leftovers
Ability: Ice-body
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 S.Attack, 160 Speed, 98 Hp


Ice-beam
Weather-ball
HP(Ground)
Autotomize


Ice-beam is for STAB. Weather-ball is a strong Fire-type move in the Sun. HP(Ground) is for coverage. Autotomize boosts speed. Ice-body makes it so if the weather is change to Hail(Which is a possibility) you get healing.

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Vanilluxe (F) @ Choice Scarf

Trait: Ice Body

EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd

Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)

  • Ice Beam
  • Water Pulse
  • Hidden Power [Electric]
  • Flash Cannon
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Vaniluxe (F) @ nevermelt ice- Sp. tank
EVs- 104 Hp/200 Sp attack/200 Sp defence
Nature- calm(+sp defence,- attack)
Ability- ice body
Moves-
- hail- heals & I now know that it also increases a bunch of things, & hurts the enemy!
- blizzard- one of the best stab moves especially with hail working simultaneously
- water pulse- taking advantage of egg moves & high sp attack
- substitute- heals damage taken from this in hail & allows a few moves of attack w/ out damage

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Two Scoops of Deathly Frostbite

Ability: Ice Body
Nature: Timid (+Spe, -Atk)
EVs: 252 SpA, 252 Spe, 4 SpD
Item: Leftovers/Icy Rock
- Blizzard- high power STAB
- Flash Cannon/Water Pulse- adds more coverage with nice effects
- Hail- works with ability, ups SpD, and powers up Blizzard
- Hidden Power(Ground)- eliminate 3 weakness with one move

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Advice for readers: go for the Ice Rock if it's a hail team.
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Nature : modest
Gender: can be boy or female
items: brightpowder
Special annoyer
moves:
. Hail
. frost breath
. mirror shot
. attract
.Attract cuts chance of being hit by 50% added with brightpowder and mirror shot lowering its accuracy even further.
.Frost Breath is for STAB plus 100% accuracy with hail and it always crits .
.Hail restores hp including a 1.5x normal damage and 1.5x sp. def. increase for vanilluxe.
. works well only pokemon with opposite genders and effective for wittling down tanks.
. good combo with another ice pokemon in double batttles.

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1 HP sweeper

I know, I know, they aren't popular these days cause of hazards. But hear me out, please.

Perry's (Vanilluxe) @ Focus Sash
![Vanilluxe][1]
EVs: 252 SAtk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
Mild Nature (+ SAtk, - Def) or Modest (+SAtk, - Def)
Trait: Weak Armor

  • Ice Beam
  • Hidden Power [Ground]
  • Signal Beam
  • Ice Shard/Mirror Coat

A little suprise for those Physical guys. This swept half a team. Weak Armor will get you more Speed to Sweep. If you'd lika a 1-time use OHKO to any Special Attacker, Use Mirror Coat. If you want to revenge kill with STAB Priority Ice Shard, that's another viable option. Ice Beam is your main STAB. Hidden Power gets you coverage to Rock, Fire, and Steel- covering all its weaknesses except Fighting. Signal Beam kills Dark and Psychic.
[1]: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHVXXIom6pxQSR5eZvW-wnmrqvP4aIcD_2CUPIF_85LP87M7jC

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Replace Ice Shard/Mirror Coat with Autotomize, and you've got something here.
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This is more of a question, than an answer, but

I was just wondering if it is an optional strategy to build Vanilluxe tanky...

Vanilluxe @ Leftovers

Ability: Ice body
Nature: Modest (+ Sp. A -Att)
EVs: 128 Sp. A 100 Defense 127 HP 155 Sp. Defense

Hail
- Gain 1/16 of your max HP every round (Combined with Leftovers there will be 1/8)
- I have heard that it also increases Sp. Defense by 50 %
- And in addition boosting Blizzard to 100 % chance and plus 50 % damage

Blizzard
- Doing massive damage (120 1.5(Hail) 1.5(Vanilluxe is an ice type)) = 270

Acid Armor
- Increases defense by two stages

Light Screen
- Decreases foe's Sp. Attack damage by 50 % --> Same as doubling the Sp. Defense
- Combined with Hail: 1.5*2= 3 times the Sp. Defense --> Sp Attacks will do 33 % of ordinary damage

Is all of my maths true? Is this an optional way of building Vanilluxe or is it far better having better Sp. Attack coverage with Speed EVs?

I'll be very thankful if someone answer :-D

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This really isn't the place to ask about it, just post the set.
sadly hail wont buff any stats, I wish it did though
I think this is a great set!
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Vanniluxe
PUT ON A HAIL TEAM
[email protected] Ice body
252 HP. 118 def. 118 s.def. 20 s.atk
Mirror Coat: Alot of damage on the opponent's special sweeper.
Toxic: To toxicinize physical Pokemon.
Hidden Power Ground/Blizzard: HP Ground=Coverage Blizzard=180 power and gets poison heal Gliscor and Breloom.
Protect: Annoying! Heal while they are being hurt by poison.

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The all-important Hail is missing from this moveset, and if Toxic is there just to defeat Physical attackers, then Vanilluxe should use Acid Armor to raise up its Defense and wall them out.
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Vanilluxe
Ability: Ice body
Nature: Timid (+Spd, -Atk)
- Blizzard
- Flash cannon
- Acid armor
- Mirror coat
It may looks like a strange double ice cone, but I really like it! You can choose between Blizzard or Ice beam if you're playing on an Hail team or not. You can boost your defense to push the opponent to use S. attacks, and then you just have to use Mirror coat. Combine it with Leftovers during Hail so you can have a not-so-bad recovery after using Mirror coat.

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A few things that we all notice about Vanilluxe:

-Vanilluxe specializes in Special attacks
-It can learn Weather Ball
-It can learn two different Weather moves that benefit it in different ways: Hail lets it wear down opponents, especially in combination with its Ice Body Ability, and Rain Dance halves the power of Fire-type attacks (which Vanilluxe is weak against) and doubles the power of Water-type moves (which Vanilluxe can learn, and Fire-types are weak against)
-It needs Hail active to activate its Ice Body Ability, can make good use of Water-type attacks to counter two of its Weaknesses (Fire and Rock)

Many of you have noticed one or more of these things, and built pretty tough movesets out of your findings.
However, I have looked at all of these, taken a "zoomed-out" look at all of these facts at once, and come up with what I believe is a "big picture" that takes Vanilluxe out of the shadow of other Special-attacking Ice-type Snow Cloak/Ice Body + Hail + Blizzard users and in a surprising and unique direction that I believe will unlock its true potential and make it a force of nature to be reckoned with in every Battle Format: Singles, Doubles, Triples, Multi, it can hypothetically adapt to any environment and makes a great teammate to many different Pokémon!

Vanilluxe
Ice
Ability: Ice Body
Held item: Leftovers
Ideal Nature: Timid or Modest
Moveset:
-Autotomize
-Hail
-Rain Dance
-Weather Ball

This Ultimate Vanilluxe can do what Castform was meant to do: change the weather in different ways depending on the situation, and power up and change the typing of Weather Ball to always deal Super-Effective damage.
Since this Weather Vanilluxe wins by adapting to each opponent and altering conditions to its advantage, I like to start off with Autotomize to make the somewhat-slow Vanilluxe into a somewhat-fast Vanilluxe that can out speed most unboosted opponents.
In a normal situation, it can use Ice Body + Hail + Weather Ball (Ice) to wear down opponents with a combination of Hail damage, powerful STAB Weather Balls, and slowly healing the damage it takes with its Ice Body Ability and the held item Leftovers.
When faced with its worst enemy, Fire-types, it can use Rain Dance to halve their Super-Effective STAB Fire-type moves, then use Weather Ball (Water) to deal Super-Effective damage, nearly TWICE as much as Water Pulse-actually MORE than twice, because Rain also doubles the power of Water-type moves, including Weather Ball (Water)!
If you already have Autotomize and Rain Dance set up, you can even afford to sneak in Weather Ball (Water) against Rock, Fighting, and Steel-types, for Super-Effective hits on Rock-types and neutral hits on Fighting and Steel-types!
In fact, some Rock-types are slow enough for an unboosted Vanilluxe to outspeed them and hit them with Weather Ball (Water) for huge Super-Effective damage!
This is the first and main reason why I go with Hail/Weather Ball/Rain Dance over the typical moveset of Hail/Blizzard/Water Pulse; slightly less damage from Weather Ball (Ice) than Blizzard in Hail in exchange for nearly double damage from Weather Ball (Water) than from Water Pulse when faced with Vanilluxe's worst enemies is a great trade-off in my opinion, great enough to make Vanilluxe way more versatile in battle!

Its major weakness is its lack of coverage; its only attacking move is Weather Ball, and by itself, it has access to three different versions: the Normal-type version, which activates in the absence of strong Weather and only has 50 Base Power; the Ice-type version, its main STAB move; and the Water-type version, its answer to its biggest threats.
Against the Water-type, which resists both Water and Ice, Weather Ball is effectively a 50 Base Power attack no matter what, but if Vanilluxe has Hail going, it at least gets STAB on the Ice-type form of Weather Ball, and some healing from Ice Body to mitigate the damage it takes from the painful matchup.
However, against some Dual-type Water-types, their secondary type will be weak to Ice (such as Water/Flying-types like Gyarados), Water (such as Water/Rock-types like Omastar), or both (such as Water/Ground-types like Swampert), so keep an eye out for opportunities to deal maximum damage.

What helps mitigate this weakness, and is the other reason why I prefer this Weather Ball build, is because while this wouldn't be the most powerful or self-sufficient sweeper, is because the Ultimate Vanilluxe is a great support Pokémon, especially for Weather-based teams, but also for others, such as protecting Grass-types with Rain Dance + Weather Ball, and getting their help against Water-types in return.
While I think it has good sweep potential in Singles due to Autotomize and being able to adapt to different situations, I believe it shines best in Battles with more than one Pokémon on each side, such as Doubles and Triples, as a Weather supporter that gains power from Weather-bringers like Politoed, Ninetales, Hippowdon, and Mega Charizard Y, and gives power to Weather-boosted Pokémon like Blizzard-users, Thunder and Hurricane-users, and other Weather Ball-users such as Castform.
Sunny Day/Drought makes Castform vulnerable to being OHKOed by Fire-type moves, even from non-Fire-types that don't get STAB, but also gives it access to Weather Ball (Fire), its Super-Effective answer to Steel-type opponents.
It can naturally outrun some Steel-types, and with one Autotomize boost, it can outrun many of them.
Sandstorm damages Vanilluxe, but gives it access to Weather Ball (Rock), its neutral-damage attack against the Water type, and shuts off Rain Dance, and with it, the Rain Dance + Swift Swim + powerful Water-type move + STAB + Rain boost OHKO sweep combo that many Water-types have access to.

In conclusion, this is my theory on the ultimate build for the Ultimate Vanilluxe:
Weather Vanilluxe!
But hey, that's just a theory...a Battle Theory!
Thanks for reading!

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