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What is a good moveset for Groudon?

4 votes

Since he has AWESOME attack power,

Earthquake, STAB

Eruption, great to start battles, abbility,

bulk up, great stat move,

Rest, with lum/chesto berry.

Groudon learnset

asked Jul 24, 2010 by ohioscyther
edited Aug 6, 2011 by Pokemaster

16 Answers

4 votes

Groudon @ Choice Specs

Trait: Drought

EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SpA

Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spe)

  • Earthquake
  • Stone Edge
  • SolarBeam
  • Fire Blast

Designed to Wallbreak.
Attack is 438, and SpA is 448.
Earthquake is very good STAB.
Stone Edge hits the likes of Lugia and Ho-Oh and formes EdgeQuake combo.
SolarBeam hits from the special side, and complements Fire Blast well. For once, Groudon can actually use SolarBeam.
Don't spam it mindlessly though, be very cautious when using it. You do NOT want to use it on a Kyogre switch in.
Fire Blast gets psuedo STAB and roasts any Skarmory trying to ruin the day. Also Ferrothorn and Forretress.
EVs give Groudon maximum offensive potential while Brave is chosen to make the Attacking stats more even and to not lower any of its defenses.

answered Aug 6, 2011 by Hex
edited Oct 6 by Pokemaster
how did you get your groudon's attack and special attack so high with the evs and stuff and what is the nature of your groudon?
This is a awesome moveset for groudon but I'm just wondering is there a moveset for groudon that can support blaziken on ubers?
2 votes

Earthquake-STAB, beastly attack

solarbeam-cover water weakness, good with ability

rock slide-cover ice weakness

EDIT-Eruption/flamethrower/fire punch-good powerful fire attack

answered Jul 24, 2010 by DarkTyphlosion
edited Jul 24, 2010 by DarkTyphlosion
Fire type attack needed. Covers both Ice and Grass weakness.
Fre Punch is better due to higher attack power. I also would rather have Stone Edge, the greater power is worth the lower accuracy.
RATS! I have to leave! It is all yours Trachy.
2 votes

Physical Set


Fire punch(Covers ice and grass powered up by ability)

Stone edge(Covers flying types)

Bulk up/Thunder punch(Make it OHKO everything/cover water)

Special set

Eruption(Covers ice and grass powered up by ability)


Solar beam(Covers water)

HP(ice)(Covers Dragons and flying types)

answered Feb 21, 2011 by Speed freak
2 votes

Gen 5 Double Dancing Groudon set.

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Thuggish (Groudon) @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
EVs: 248 HP / 28 Atk / 64 Def / 160 SDef / 8 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Rock Polish

There’s a chance you’re looking at this set going “Wtf is this guy smoking” and I swear I can answer that. I started out by wanting to build a sun team, but I also wanted a Groudon that could take hits. The first thing I knew was that I would need a Max HP, so 252 HP was entered. Then, I figured I would need some SDef to tank some of those powerful hits from the Uber tier. I went to the calcs and started boosting the SDef until I was happy with the result, 160 provided me with good breathing room and survivability. I knew I would need some Def EVs as well, otherwise powerful physical attackers like Band-Oh and Excadrill would still give me issues. Knowing I wouldn’t need as many Def EVs as SDef EVs, I worked it out the same way. Increasing the Defense until I was happy with the hits Groudon could take. I then dumped the rest in Attack, and slapped an Adamant nature on him. With this spread however, I wasn’t sure what kind of moveset would work well, I originally thought Band, but SteelJackal suggested that with this spread I could easily get away with Double Dancing Groudon. So I adjusted the moveset and went to test. First game he swept the opponent’s team. I was flabbergasted. But I knew that the set was definitely not perfect, as I’m still a n00b, so I asked Sweep what he thought. He said two things, “Always speed creep”, and, “248 HP so you have an odd number for HP”. And so I took 4 Atk EVs and 4 HP EVs and threw them in Speed. After a couple weeks of using the team, I was facing someone with a Latios. I was at +2 and +2, all set to sweep. Latios survived Stone Edge with 0.3%...
So I took 4 Def and put them in Attack. The spread was perfected as much as possible.
Rock Polish and Swords Dance are my stat boosters, and it isn’t too difficult to set them up on most leads. Darkrai can provide issues with Dark Void, but I can normally deal with that just fine. The most trouble I have is against Defensive walls who can afford to switch in on +2 EQ and the next turn phaze me. Hippowdon is an example of this. SDef Giratina-A is 2HKO by +2 EQ as are Kyogre, Mewtwo, Palkia, Espeon, and several other common Uber Pokemon. Stone Edge completes the EdgeQuake combo, and works beauties against the Lati twins, Xatu, Ho-Oh, Tornadus, Landorus, and Shaymin. It gets a OHKO on all of them, except Landorus who takes hefty damage from it (when it hits). Groudon himself doesn’t utilize the sun much, except to assist in his survival. ScarfPalkia under sun gets a 3HKO with Spacial Rend, which hits harder than Hydro Pump (sun). Kyogre locked into Ice Beam (who stupidly stays in) will get a 2HKO if Specs and 3HKO is Scarfed. PsychoKiller Mewtwo gets a 2HKO with Ice Beam. Excadrill under sun falls to Groudon. Under sand Groudon can tank +2 EQ then retaliate in kind with a OHKO. If the opponent is running some gimmick like BalloonExcadrill, then Groudon still has the upper hand (seeing that Groudon being in will almost guarantee that I have weather), but as Excadrill can’t do enough damage without +2 I still take the day with Stone Edge to pop the balloon and then KO with EQ. I could continue talking about Groudon, but I think you get the gist. I’ll continue with the team.

Here are some calcs, gonna link it because I don't wanna jump the character limit.
Calc list for spread

answered Dec 13, 2013 by MrKijani
Interesting. Especially the speed evs.
1 vote

Gen V

Groudon @ Leftovers

Trait: Drought

EVs: 252 Atk / 196 Def / 60 Spd

Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)

  • Fire Punch
  • Earthquake
  • Stone Edge
  • Bulk Up
answered May 28, 2011 by trachy
edited Jun 29, 2011 by trachy
1 vote

Groudon @ Leftovers

Trait: Drought
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)

  • Earthquake
  • Stone Edge
  • Stealth Rock
  • Dragon Tail
answered Apr 29, 2012 by Mewderator
I like the Stealth Rock then Dragon Tail part but why would you completely ignore Groudons ability drought?
Drought still lowers the power of water moves and can be used to boost the power of a teammate's fire moves.
1 vote

Groudon @ Assault Vest
Ability: Drought
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Eruption
- Earthquake
- Dragon Tail
- Solar Beam

I Hate Groudon But here's a (Good) Set for him to use!
Eruption Deals More Damage due too sunny day (Unfortunatly no STAB like Kyogre)
Earthquake STAB, Thats all you Really need to know
Dragon Tail is a Wierd move no one likes But I adore it, it might always hit last but if there's a Pokemon You dont want on the Field you could Tail him away (This is Very optional if you dont like this You can Just Change it :D)
Solar Beam Well... Well.... Uh ... IDK...

answered Oct 2, 2014 by Kiproy
Adamant?! -.-
Try Adamant and physical tank.
1 vote

Primal Groudon is a beast. Now that its a Fire/Ground Type, it is immune to Will'O'Wisp!

Groudon @ Red Orb

Ability: Drought ---> Desolate Land
EVs: 128 HP/252 Atk/128 Spe
Adamant/Naughty Nature
-Precipice Blades/Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Fire Punch/Overheat/Fire Blast
-Rock Polish

Primal Groudon's Ability, Desolate Land, makes water type moves fail, basically making it a solid switch into Kyogre (Primal). It has such great bulk that setting up a Rock Polish can be done pretty easily, then you can proceed to sweep from there. 128 Speed EVs are to outspeed base 100 Choice Scarf users (Palkia) after a Rock Polish, the rest are put into HP for added bulk.

Precipice Blades is STAB with 120 Base Power, but if you fear the miss, you can always run good ol' Earthquake. Stone Edge is for the famed EdgeQuake coverage, and Fire Punch for another STAB. Overheat or Fire Blast coming off base 150 Special Attack (Same as Kyogre!) fries any Landorus/Gliscor/Skarmory/Scizor coming to try walling you.

answered Jan 1 by X3Evanescence
edited Oct 6 by Pokemaster
FYI I've removed the fan art from this answer as the original artist complained.
0 votes

Careful nature (-SAtt +SDef)
maxed SDef, Spe, Att

Earthquake - STAB, strong, accurate
Fire Punch - pseudoSTAB, accurate, coverage, may burn
Thunderpunch - accurate, coverage, may paralyze
Swords Dance - O_o

answered Jan 8, 2011 by DarthDestiny
0 votes

Groudon @ Choice Scarf

Role: Physical Sweeper

Trait: Drought

EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd

Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)

  • Earthquake
  • Fire Punch
  • Stone Edge
  • ThunderPunch

Choice Scarfin Boss, Adamant for the OHKO's,

Eathquake for STAB
Fire Punch For Sun Power
Stone Edge for Coverage
Thunder Punch for Move Coverage.

answered Aug 6, 2011 by Josh
0 votes

Groudon @ Leftovers

Trait: Drought
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Toxic
- Stealth Rock
- Roar
- Earthquake

Stealth rock is Stealth rock, Roar phazes some guys, toxic might cripple the opposing team if he has the opprtunity before he roars, e-quake is still awesome STAB incase of taunt and others.

answered Oct 29, 2011 by Tysonyoshi
edited Oct 31, 2011 by Tysonyoshi
Skarmory with taunt.
0 votes

Groudon@ Leftovers / Focus Slash
- Solarbeam -- Doesn`t need to load because of Drought, deals with water type's
- Fire Punch / Eruption -- Both very strong fire moves, boosed by ability
- Earthquake -- Beastly attack, deals massive damage
- Stone Edge / Swords Dance -- Stone Edge if you want coverage against ice type's, Swords Dance if you want to incease you're attack stat

NOTE: Drought + 3 stacks of Swords Dance + Fire Punch= Massive damage.

answered Feb 26, 2012 by Thepokedude
edited Mar 3, 2012 by Thepokedude
0 votes

Groudon @ Heat Rock
Ability: Drought
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature
IVs: 30 HP
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Thunder Wave
- Swords Dance

answered Oct 1, 2014 by Y.Joey405
It can't learn Swords Dance (I think).
Even if it could Bulk Up is definitely a better option.
0 votes

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Groudon@Red Orb
Brave Nature(+Atk,-Spd)
252 Atk, 200 S.Def, 50 Def and 8 HP
Earthquake(More reliable than Precipice Blades)
Fire Punch/Eruption
Solar Beam (With it's awesome ability)
Any coverage move that suits your team: Thunder Punch/Brick Break/Rock Slide/Iron Head/Dragon Claw

Witness the wonder..........

answered Apr 19 by luke777
0 votes

Special Lead Groudon

Groudon @ Red Orb
Ability: Drought
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
- Earth Power
- Fire Blast / Flamethrower / Eruption
- Thunderbolt / SolarBeam
- Stealth Rock

Earth Power and Fire Blast/Flamethrower/Eruption are STAB. Fire Blast for power, Flamethrower for accuracy, or Eruption for the start of battles. Thunderbolt gets more coverage than SolarBeam in Ubers, but SolarBeam is more powerful. The only reason you would use SolarBeam is for Kyogre, who, if mega evolved, will cancel SolarBeam's effectiveness. Thus, Thunderbolt is recommended. Stealth Rock is setup.

answered Jul 11 by ThinkGraser10
edited Jul 15 by ThinkGraser10
0 votes

These two Groudon sets share a few things in common, One of them being that they were both based around making Groudon a fast physical sweeper that can out-speed many Pokemon. Below are the two sets; one for ORAS, and one for XY.

EV Spread: 252 Attack/252 Speed/ 6 HP
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Drought (Desolate Land)
Item: Red Orb
-Precipice Blades (STAB)
-Stone Edge (To take care of Flying Pokemon)
-Fire Punch (STAB)
-Thunder Punch (So it can do something to Water Pokemon)

XY Set:
EV Spread: 252 Attack/252 Speed/6 HP
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Drought
Item: Choice Band
-Earthquake (While it doesn't have Precipice Blades, it still has a good STAB move)
-Stone Edge (To do something against Flying Pokemon)
-Fire Punch (Type coverage and warding off Grass Pokemon)
-Thunder Punch (Type coverage and warding off Water Pokemon)

answered Jul 26 by HoennFTW23