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Dragon Dance Gyarados or Dragon Dance Kingdra?

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Considering that gyarados has intimidate NOT moxie so please dont bring that up

They both learn good attacking moves that provide near perfect coverage(Waterfall and bounce only resisted by lanturn and empoleon and rotomw)(Outrage and waterfall only resisted by empoleon and ferrothron)
Gyarados has much higher attack but kingdra has outrage which has much higher power than any of gyarados's moves which basically makes them have equal power
Kingdra has only 1 weakness while gyarados has 2 and one of them is a crippling electric weakness which is a quite popular attacking type in ou right now

So which one would work better?

asked Jan 10, 2013 by HellDoom
edited Jan 11, 2013 by Pokemaster
kingdra

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Kingdra in my opinion.It only has one weakness and has more coverage to me.Don't get me wrong.Gyarados has awesome attack power,but if you are not fast enough to clear electric types goodbye gyarados.So in my opinion kingdra is a much better choice.

answered Jan 10, 2013 by legenduser123
selected Jan 10, 2013 by HellDoom
Try with this set:
Kingdra | Scope Lens
Sniper | Jolly (+Spd -SpAtk)
4 HP | 252 Atk | 252 Spd
Dragon Dance | Waterfall
Outrage | Focus Energy
No one may use this set lol. Scope Lens n' Focus Energy may help with crits making Sniper a good ability. Dragon Dance is just a sweeping support. Waterfall n' Outrage gains STAB hitting many pokemon at least with neutral damage bar Empoleon n' Ferrothorn as you said).
well its kinda risky relying on crits with scope lens because the crit percentage increase is not that huge so i was thinking to use a substitute dragon dance version so i could avoid all statuses who try to stop my sweep. but thanks for advice, you guys made me consider kingdra over gyarados lol
yea, I just like abuse sniper lol
and with scope lens and after setup one focus energy, you will have 25% chance of be a critical hit.
Scope lens and focus energy is a waste of a item space and a turn
Id rather raise its attack using a life orb and atk+spd using dragon dance
That would almost double the atk, raise spd to 1.5,
instead of raing the crit to pathetic 25% chance
1 vote

Well, you have mentioned some good points, and I would say Kingdra. As you said, that Electric weakness is pretty bad as of late. Kingdra also works better on a Rain team IMO, due to Swift Swim. Sniper is also a nice option to have.
May I also add that Kingdra was blessed with even stats, making it quite possible for it to survive longer while setting up D-Dance. Gyarados just doesn't have any Defensive Bulk.
Edit: Just remembered Intimidate on Gyarados. Thought I should mention that that Attack lowering ability does nothing against Discharge.

Just as a side note, Bounce isn't really a great move for competitive battling.

answered Jan 10, 2013 by Poke'slash
Bounce is actually good, no joke.
Well, in some cases, but normally, not the best.
Most Gyarados's use Bounce.
Not in competative
1 vote

Gyarados.

Creds to kyron for dis set:

Gyarados (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
-Waterfall
-Dragon Dance
-Earthquake
-Ice Fang

Kingdra is UU for a reason. Swift Swim and Drizzle are banned. Kingdra's use is Rain.

answered Jan 10, 2013 by Ninja