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How do I allocate EVs using Super Training?

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I have been playing Pokemon since the original Red and Blue versions, but I have only recently become interested in the meta-game. My problem is that I have looked on sites such as this one and Smogon, and I don't understand how to allocate EVs.

For example, I came across this EV spread for Abomasnow. It says: 252 HP /4 ATK/ 252 SpATK.
How exactly does this particular spread work?

Any help would be appreciated, and I wholeheartedly apologize for my sheer stupidity ;)


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The particular spread you mentioned works as a Special Attacking and Tank Abomasnow.

The 4 EVs in attack are to power up Ice Shard, its only means of priority.

You basically put most EVs (usually max i.e 252) on a stat you think is gonna be the most useful or productive. For example we have a Weavile.

If you take a glance at its base stats, you see that it has high speed and attack stats. So that's where you have to invest EVs.

Here are some major roles that a Pokemon can take for it's team:

  • Wall: A Pokemon that can take hits for the team and play stall/mind games. They also usually carry status and/or entry hazards. Eg.- Shuckle, Blissey. They run EVs in defenses so that they can take hits better.
    Sample Spread: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Sp.Def

  • Sweeper: A Pokemon that can go on the offense for your team. They tend to carry strong attacking moves and/or set-up moves to increase their offenses. Eg.- The mentioned Weavile, Garchomp. They run investments in their higher attacking stats and speed, so that they can outspeed other Pokemon and get in a hard hit which can, either severely dent or knock out the opposing Pokemon.
    Sample spread: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP

  • Tank: These Pokemon are a cross between a Wall and a Sweeper, where they are bulky and hard hitting at the same time. The usually carry moves that are suitable to their main cause, like the Abomasnow runnning 4 attacks and an Aggron running 3 attacks and one status/hazard move. They usually run investments in their HP and attack stats, so that their offense and defense are somewhat in equilibrium.
    Sample spread: 252 Sp.Atk / 252 HP / 4 Def (or attack in Abomasnow's case)

  • Wallbreakers: These Pokemon are almost tailor made to destroy opposing walls from doing mischief. They lack the potential to sweep, and usually don't have good bulk, usually characterised by sky high offenses. Many can also become sweepers if given the chance. Eg. - Breloom, Scrafty. They usually invest in their offense stat and another stat that might be beneficial.
    Sample spread: 252 Atk / 164 Spe / 92 HP

Those are the major roles, there are many sub roles like Rapid Spinner, Hazard Setter, Pivot etc. but they can all be classified into these groups in my opinion.

However, Pokemon can do different roles from what their stats suggest as well. Like Gyarados, while it goes for high attack usually, it can potentially run a tankier set, due to its good typing. In which case, it will run HP investments more than attack.

It actually takes a understand which Pokemon does what best, but when you know what job it does well, like for a Weavile, you know where to invest.

With respect to Super Training:

In super training, there are the following regimens that are built for EV training purposes:

  • Super Training level 1: (all stats are raised by 4 EVs here)

a] Magnemite (Special Attack)
b] Wailmer (HP)
c] Axew (Attack)
d] Tentacool (Special Defense)
e] Noibat (Speed)
f] Geodude (Defense)

  • Super Training level 2: (all stats are raised by 8 EVs here)

a] Magneton (Special Attack)
b] Relicanth (HP)
c] Fraxure (Attack)
d] Tentacruel (Special Defense)
e] Aerodactyl (Speed)
f] Graveler (Defense)

  • Super Training level 3: (all stats are raised by 12 EVs here)

a] Magnezone (Special Attack)
b] Wailord (HP)
c] Haxorus (Attack)
d] Dragalge (Special Defense)
e] Noivern (Speed)
f] Golem (Defense)

You can use these for minute detailing in EVs, like 128 Atk.

Source: Basic knowledge on EVs and my DS

Hope I helped!

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Wow, thank you very much for your amazing answers. This has helped me greatly and I really appreciate it :).
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Ill try my best to answer this.

If your looking for a way to properly distribute evs to stats as shown on smogon and db there are multiple ways. These ways include: Supertraining and Vitamins.

To associate it with super training then you must know when smogon or db displays spreads such as: abomasnow 252 hp/4 attck/252 sp. Attack. This means give abomasnow 252 evs in hp, 4 in attack, and 252 in sp.attack.
So when you super train, play the attack training until you have 252 in the desired stat. 252 is the maximum amount of evs your Pokemon can have in one stat and 510 is the total evs your Pokemon can have in general. Once you maximized two stats you will have left over evs. Those are the evs you use for that 4 evs in attack or any stat that doesnt need alot of evs.

Vitamins are stat boosting items that gives 10 evs to each stat, however after 10 uses (100 evs) on a specific stat it, cant be used anymore.
These items are:
protien (attack)
calcium (sp.attack)
iron (defense)
Carbos (speed)
Zinc (sp. Defense)
Hp up (hp)

Hope I helped

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Every 4 EVs obtained in a particular stat equals one more point for that stat, by the time that Pokémon reaches level 100. At low levels you may not see all the points added straight away. If your Pokémon is at a high level you will see a lot of additional points going on to the appropriate stats at each level up.

In total a Pokémon can gain 510 EVs, but only 255 in one stat. Since 4 EVs equals one stat point, if you want to max out a particular stat it's only useful to get 252 EVs (63 points). The last 3 EVs would be wasted. However, in practice it's a chore to count exactly how many EVs you have obtained (there's no other way to tell) so you may wish to simply max out a particular stat and forego a point or two.-The DB EVs Page

The Abomasnow that you saw had a 252 HP /4 ATK/ 252 SpATK spread. So it probably had Ice Shard, 3 Special moves, and was a bulky Pokémon.

Say that you had a Mega Charizard X. You would probably give it 3 Physical moves, Dragon Dance and a 252 Atk/252 Spd/4 HP spread to benefit from its great Attack (partially because of its ability, Tough Claws, which boosts all Physical moves) and Speed.

Hope I helped!!

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