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Sand Ubers! Hippowdon is back!

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Guys, I'm going to keep posting until I get some suggestions or feedback. Can you at least tell me if you LIKE my team?



Hippo (Hippowdon) (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Toxic
- Slack Off
- Stealth Rock

Hippowdon is back! He's ready to get the sand Steamin' in the Ubers now. You should know this set, get up the rocks, poison the opponent, --don't worry, I'm not afraid of taunting, because I'm probably not going to keep this guy out long. I've got more Important things to attend to...



TITAN (Arceus-Rock) @ Stone Plate
Trait: Multitype
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Judgment
- Flamethrower
- Calm Mind
- Recover

When is the last time you saw THIS guy? Behold my magnificent creation. With the sand up, he's SO bulky. With a Calm-Mind Up, he practically is unstoppable. Remember, he gets a 50% SpD boost in the sand, which is one of the things I'm counting on. Judgement ROCK can kill a lot of things. With one calm mind up, it'll kill Kyurem B/W, but I'm not going to stop with one calm mind. Flamethrower takes down the steel types, and can 2HKO a max SpD Groudon if he has 2-3 Calm minds up in the sun.



SuperMole! (Excadrill) (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Sand Rush
EVs: 104 HP / 252 Atk / 152 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- X-Scissor
- Swords Dance

This guy is strong, and fast. with 152 Speed EVs, he'll be at 500 Speed in the sand. Since this is Unnecessarily high, I gave him some Bulk, and Max attack. With one swords dance, he'll be able to KO a bit. In the sand he out-speeds Mewtwo, which is why I gave him X-scissor. I now see why he's in Ubers.



DIE-Alga (Dialga) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 36 Def / 220 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Thunder Wave
- Magnet Rise
- Flamethrower
- Dragon Pulse

I've tried this set, and it works! There are a lot of speed-demons out in the Ubers, so I decided I'll cripple them. Dialga can take an Outrage from Black Kyurem, can take an Aura Sphere from Mewtwo, spacial rend from palkia, and Cripple them! Mewtwo is a sitting duck when paralyzed, which also goes for Scarfed Kyurem, Palkia, Rayquaza, Darkrai, and a lot of other Ubers. If you ask me, paralysis is the best status to give in Ubers. He has magnet rise to take EQs, and Flamethrower to hurt Arceus Steel. Only thing he cannot beat... well, I'm not going to give it away, but it's probably obvious.



IcanreadyourMind 0.0 (Mewtwo) @ Life Orb
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Flamethrower
- Thunderbolt
- Psystrike

I know lots of people like Specs Mewtwo for ultimate power, but I think this one does the trick for me. With such a diverse moveset, mewtwo is good when he's not locked into a move. you've seen this set before.


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PINKY (Chansey) (F) @ Eviolite
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Heal Bell
- Toxic
- Wish
- Seismic Toss

Alright, I needed someone to sponge the water attacks. Dialga's good at it, but here's my back-up plan. I didn't give Pinky here any real defense, because it wouldn't stand a chance with physical moves. I just decided to make her an all out physical wall. I needed a status healer, and a wish-passer, and chansey seems to be the go-to-guy. Bring it on Kyogre!


asked Aug 30, 2012 by Giga
edited Aug 30, 2012 by Giga
Anyone else up for answering as well :) I think I may sand is my gym weather.
So 3 answers lol
trachy's excadrill spread is nice, but remember to switch it to 208 spd when battling him :]
I'll appreciate all ratings. Thanks for the Excadrill Spread Trachy, but If I had Ho-Oh, I'd have a HUGE water weakness.
Good point on the Water weakness. I added it there due to its ability to take on Fighting and Ground, which your team does have a big weakness to, as well as its ability to take on Sun and Hail. I would suggest adding it in for Dialga and replacing Chansey or Mewtwo for something that can take on Water type attacks, such as Palkia or Ferrothorn (Palkia for Mew, Ferro for Chansey, Palkia being the preference.) These two are also a huge help to Sand due to their ability to counter Kyogre, the number one threat to this team.

It's something that might be worth testing out. Try it and see how it works for you.

One final thing worthy of note. You might want to give Mewtwo Aura Sphere over Thunderbolt due to it's ability to take down Darkrai and do good damage to Dialga. I think this is more important than taking down Kyogre and the Johto flyers, all three of whom have high Special Defense and will only be barely 2HKOd by a lucky Thunderbolt. Psystrike also takes down these threats perfectly well (except Lugia, for whom Ice Beam is equal to Thunderbolt in taking down).
Thanks Trachy!

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Im not sure wether you know or not but i love Ubers and have great experience especially in sand it being my gym team.
I never will be king of Ubers though :'( Hex has that spot untill he leaves then i have stiff competition from users like Mew anyhow lets start this.
So far the team is good and its nice to see Hippo in Ubers but there are some reaasons Tyranitar is used over it.


Hippo
When using pokemon in differant tiers you have to change there sets for an example if you used Mushruna in Ou would you also use Hp Bug?
The biggest problem here is you have a special wall and even thanks to Hippowdons typing its going to be hit very hard from super effective Hydro Pumps which is a bummer especially considering with Chansey you best be looking out for that poor def stat.
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef Impish and thats the only change i would suggest you need to be able to sponge Outrage's.


Arceus Rock
This guy can do some damage and it runs a very similar set to Arceus Ghost so the set is fine but i do highly recomend using 252 Hp / 4 SAtk / 252 Speed Timid
or 4 Hp / 252 SAtk / 252 Speed Timid.
You will have much fun with that set.


Excadrill
If you do decide to use Ho-oH which is a pretty decent option try using offencive rapid spin set.
Iron head im not keen on the coverage is rather slim so i suggest loosing iron head and x scizzor for Rapid Spin and stone edge/ shadow claw.
Shadow claw hits Girintina as well as the psychic pokemon.
Obviously go with Trachys evs


Dialga
Magnet Rise is Gimmicky and you will not have a chance to use it against your biggest threat Groudon.
You need a pokemon that can hit Groudon harder than any other but for the mean time i suggest swapping this guy for Btw this pokemon isnt the one hitting it hard yet lol

Kyurem-B.
170 base attack stab Outrage will certainly hit anything neutrally hard.
Also we have a Kyogre counter and thanks to its typing it resists water ice and electric :D
Usually i would use Choice Scarf but today i recomend you try Band as well.
@Scarf/Band
4 Hp / 252 Atk / 252 Speed
Naive(band) Naughty(Scarf)
-Outrage
-HP Fire
-Fusion Bolt
-Ice Beam
Its stab ice beam will do some decent damage with its SAtk especially against a dying groudon.
Band, Stab, 450Atk Outrage= Destruction OHKO on most pokemon like MewTwo.
Hp Fire checks your lack of Ferrothorn and Forretress counters as well as getting an unpredicted kill on the switch in.


I feel bad at this point because i will be also swapping these guys :( but chansey can stay if it must.
MewTwo
Aura Sphere is needed here but we still lack a good Groudon counter

Deoxys-A
@Life Orb
4 Hp / 252 Atk / 252 Speed
Naughty Nature
-Psycho Boost
-SuperPower
-Extreme Speed
-Thunder
Thunder may be hindered by sand but its only use is against a rain team when rain is up but i guess you could try Thunderbolt but its not to powerfull.
This pokemon is a great late game ender.
4Hp double dance Groudon takes 105.3% - 124% from a psycho boost
Standard 252 hp Groudon takes 89.1% - 105% after rocks there is a very good chance to ko
Problems with +2 speed Groudon? extreme speed 34.8% - 41.2% after rocks and other damage theres a good chance to finish it off.
Standard Palkia takes 49.4% - 58.4% from extreme speed.
You can see that extreme speed will be very usefull.
Superpower hits Tyranitar, Darkrai and Excadrill very hard.


Chansey
I said i would swap it :( but its not set in stone
Softboiled may be better seen as Hippowdon already has healing and Dialga would be the only safe wish pass to.
Appart from that its good but you still have no pokemon resisting sand so Ho-oH could work but seen as you want a wall a will suggest Lugia.

Lugia
PP stall set phazes, subs and toxic's.
@Leftovers
preassure
252 Hp / 176 Def / 80 SDef
Bold Nature
-Whirlwind
-Roost
-Substitute
-Toxic
Whirlwind helps stop setting up and making ko's easyer as rocks kick in and you can toxic each pokemon coming in.
To make it an easy battle.
Sub and Roost is hilarious as they rage and spam moves but they run out of pp very quik.
Sub must always be up but this guy is likely needed thanks to being a flying type.


Ok ou still want a pokemon to sponge water attacks and though Kyurem can do it i suggest using him as your lead as he will do damage to all common leads 1 being Kyogre.

Anything ive missed just tell me my answers shorter than usual so i think i may have missed something.
And sorry for the replacments ive tried to keep the typing the same at leaset lol.

answered Aug 31, 2012 by Blobyolo
selected Aug 31, 2012 by Giga
Good Answer! I think I'll try most of your stuff, but I'm wondering about your scarfed/Banded Kyurem. --Once you've attacked with HP fire, Kyogre can come out, forcing you to switch, which makes me automatically lose one of my pokemon if I don't have lugia there. I'm just wondering-- Life Orb? But then, will this guy even outspeed anything? Since I already have Flamethrower on Arceus I think I might just lose it on Kyurem-B. Let me know if you have any other suggestions.
Not much else is going for Kyurem unfortunately though people will suggest moves like stone edge outrage will be your main move.
It is there purely to counter for forretress and ferrothorn because you don't want to outrage on these guys.
Stone edge is viable but what does that cover that outrage or fusion bolt doesn't hp fire is just to counter Pokemon.
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Really nice sand team.I dont know how to do the mini pokemon thing so ill just right there names.Also sorry for spelling errors.
Hippowdon:I think its a great lead geting sand up and set up.And since you plan on switching him he can come in later and restarts sand.


Arceus:Like Hippowdon i think hes really nice.Only thing i see coeming it and completly screwing things over is a Smergal and even then you coudl probaly wipe it out fast.


Excadrill:Honestly i think its great.mixed type attacker and will praticly kill anything before they can look at it with enough swords dances.


Dialga:Once again a really nice pokemon.A ditto could be a problem but you could kill it as it trasforms.


Mewtwo:Flame thrower and ice beam?Lose ice beam flamefrower gives coverage to bug.you got dragon coverage on another pokemon and sending a flying type to battle this team is suicide.instead of icebeam try aura sphere.dark coverage and if some else has a sand team its gonna kill.


Chansey:Nice healer/wall/staller and seismic toss is very powerful.a level 100 uses can kill another level 100 in 2-3 hits 4 or more if there a high hp/defense/healing


sorry if my answer wasnt really helpful

answered Aug 31, 2012 by Dragonuser
I'm Glad you liked my team! Ice Beam is for Ground coverage, since I don't have too much SE's on Ground-- However, I think I'm going to give mewtwo aura sphere so I can take out Darkrai. Thanks