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Ninetales (M) @ Leftovers

Trait: Drought
EVs: 252 HP / 196 SAtk / 60 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Will-O-Wisp
- SolarBeam
- Fire Blast
- Protect

My lead. I like Will-O-Wisp for the switch in burns. Fire Blast is for STAB. Solarbeam is normally slightly unreliable due to all of the Politoed, Tyranitar, and Hippowdon switch ins. But Will-O-Wisp is my move for switch ins, so I can be sure of what my opponent is going to throw at me. Protect can stall out Will-O-Wisp on opponents, and help me see what my opponent's tactics are.



Drifblim (M) @ Sitrus Berry

Trait: Unburden
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Weather Ball
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Weather sweeper. He's a great switch in ( takes the hit then recovers with Sitrus berry for a sweep ). Weather Ball is great in the sun, as usual. Shadow Ball is reliable STAB. Thunderbolt is part of the bolt-beam combo, while HP Ice is a slightly weaker alternate for Ice Beam. Sad sad. I'm thinking about using Froslass in his spot, but the lack of bulk and the x4 fire weakness worries me slightly there.. still testing on that.



Flygon (M) @ Life Orb

Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Outrage
- Fire Punch
- U-turn

Sun power is enough to where he can reliably run Fire Punch!
Life orb is so he isn't locked into one move, but get's a nice power boost!
Earthquake and Outrage are STAB. Fire Punch is amazing coverage. U-turn helps him scout.



Chansey (F) @ Eviolite

Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Heal Bell
- Thunder Wave
- Seismic Toss

With all of that HP stacked with Eviolite helping her defense out, Chansey actually can take physical moves much better than before.
Wish is supporting for the team. Heal Bell is supporting for the team. Thunder Wave helps my sweepers out speed..
Seismic Toss is for taunt and if it's convenient to use. Especially if someone thinks I'm running full out support Chansey.



Sawsbuck-Sum (Sawsbuck-Summer) (M) @ Choice Band

Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Horn Leech
- Retaliate
- Megahorn
- Jump Kick

Horn Leech is STAB and healing. Retaliate is for epic revenge kills, plus it's STAB.
Megahorn is nice coverage. Same with Jump Kick.
He's a revenge killer and sweeper.



Forretress (F) @ Red Card/Shed Shell/Leftovers

Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 60 Def / 196 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Rapid Spin
- Stealth Rock
- Toxic Spikes
- Volt Switch

The Rapid Spinner of the Team, which is very much needed here. Rapid Spin is the key Move for Forretress, spinning away Entry Hazards, most importantly, Toxic Spikes. Toxic Spikes support Chansey in her attempts to Stall nicely. Stealth Rock help Flygon and Sawsbuck land more KOes. Volt Switch scouts, while nailing Water Types real hard paired with the EV Spread. Volt Switch OHKOs mighty Pokemon like Cloyster, who does well in countering the Team. Loving the Bagworm Bro ^^
As for the item choices.. Red Card + Sturdy is an infamous combo Forretress is almost getting known for. Shed Bell let's him escape Magnet Pull Magnezone, which is getting more and more popular. While finally Leftovers gives him the ever so beloved gradual healing :D ( Thanks to Mike for suggesting I have a spinner, and editing in most of the description for Forretress )



Importable copy for testing:

Ninetales (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Drought
EVs: 252 HP / 196 SAtk / 60 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Will-O-Wisp
- SolarBeam
- Fire Blast
- Protect

Drifblim (M) @ Sitrus Berry
Trait: Unburden
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Weather Ball
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Flygon (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Outrage
- Fire Punch
- U-turn

Chansey (F) @ Eviolite
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Heal Bell
- Thunder Wave
- Seismic Toss

Sawsbuck-Sum (Sawsbuck-Summer) (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Horn Leech
- Retaliate
- Megahorn
- Jump Kick

Forretress (F) @ Red Card
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 60 Def / 196 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Volt Switch
- Rapid Spin
- Toxic Spikes
- Stealth Rock

asked Apr 16, 2012 by Josh
edited Apr 17, 2012 by Josh
Sawsbuck probably won't get to do much sweeping with a band, how about Life Orb?
Also you should consider a scarfer to have reliable revenging when the sun is NOT shining.
And no Fire types? the best thing about sun teams are the wallbreakuhrs like Banded Darmanitan and Specs Shandera I think.

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You know Rain, but I know Sun :D


Your Ninetales is good but you may want to consider swapping Energy-ball for Solar-beam. The reason for this is because if the opponent switches to Politoed/Tyranitar/Hippowdon you end up just absorbing light upon the switch instead of doing damage, remember 2 Energy-balls do more damage than one Solarbeam. Though Solar-beam is still good if you really want it. Good job :)



Driftblim is a misfit on this team, all he really has going for him is Weather ball, I see that you are trying to be original but there are better Pokemon you could put there. What you really need is a counter to other Weather Pokemon. A good Physical fighting type is a good idea because Tyranitar and Politoed are tough to take out with Special moves. Breloom is a good option with Bullet seed for Politoed and Hippowdon and Mach-punch for Tyranitar (both moves boosted by Technician of course). But you already have a grass type so if you dont want 2 on the same team you could also go with Machamp or Conkeldurr as they do tons of damage to anything.



Great, though you could run expert belt to trick people into thinking you were running scarf, but this is great either way. Good job :)



Very good, I have fought the same one in a battle against Mike and it was a pain, nothing really to suggest here but I will give you some advice, even with Eviolite and Max defense you only have about 178 Defense so beware of strong Fighting types, never assume you can take a hit from one because you can't if you survive you will be left with almost no HP.



Replace Jump-kick with Nature-power (Earthquake) trust me, one of this guys worst enemies in the Sun is Chandelure and you need a super-effective move on it (Without Nature-power it resists you). I know this opens you up to Skarmory but on a Sun team that is the least of your worries.



A spinner is always important, but I can't help but notice your lack of strong Special attackers by this point. I HIGHLY recommend Starmie. I know Water types are not very good on Sun teams but if you know how they can work.


Item: Leftovers
Ability: Natural-cure
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 S.Attack, 252 Speed, 6 Hp

Thunderbolt
Ice-beam
Psychic/Psyshock
Rapid-spin

This way you get a sweeper and a spinner all in one. Though this means no hazards it is still very effective, I know from experience that is guy is amazing in the sun.


So just to recap: Ninetales: Energy ball (maybe), Driftblim: switch for weather counter, Flygon: good but if you want to you can fake Scarf use expert belt (only if you want some extra fun), Chansey: Great just watch out for fighting types, Sawsbuck: Switch Jump-kick for Nature-power (Earthquake), Foretress: Swap for Starmie (Maybe).

Hope I helped :)

answered Apr 20, 2012 by Speed freak
While I'll try out these suggestions, I'd like to make some notes.

I've been using Drifblim because of how much fighting types troll my team. Assuming I don't have Starmie, it hits 2 super effective, and everything else neutral. Drifblim was there to be able to switch into fighting types. He also normally gets more sweeps than anything else on my team, I wasn't just trying to be original there. ( Trust me, my trying to be original sets are much more twisted :P ) I've been trying out Nature Power on Sawsbuck, but Air Ballon Heatran, Ferrothorn, and Hydreigon have all been trolling me ever since. As for Ninetales I've always used Solarbeam and still haven't had a Politoed or Tyranitar switch into one to this day. ( Because the switches are insanely predictable ). I'll try Starmie.
What do you know about "boosted by Technician of course"
It's unreleased, which makes it illegal in Standard OU and making it DW OU.
He never said he did not want anything in DW OU. If he concerned about that I mentioned other options too. I just found Breloom very useful in my experience.
Also, do you use Pokecheck for sprites too? Or did you just copy paste the URL's from my Q? xD
I use Pokecheck now, I used to use that other one that Tysonyoshi posted a link to on the Meta a while ago but it was down so I googled and found Pokecheck, so much better :)