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The ultimate showdown?

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Frankly speaking I can say with a clear mind that the 2° Generation is by far the one I enjoyed the most, this is mostly due to the well balanced mix of innovations and throwbacks to the older game I had the chance and pleasure to enjoy in my youth.

Gen Two not only was a stand alone game but it was, at the same time, a direct continuation of the original games that started this still standing colossal franchise that we all know and love.

One detail that sealed the deal as my favorite game between all the other choices was the possibility to face your old self and your ex rival.

So now, here's what I'd like to know from you guys:
• I'd like to know how good, with today's competitive standards, those two teams are structured and how well could they hold up.
• In case their teams are obsolete, what moves and Pokémon should be improved and/or replaced.
OPTIONAL:
• How well would they fare against each other if their 'mons were on equal levels.

Their teams are:

Red's:

Pikachu
Pikachu
- Charm
- Quick Attack
- Thunderbolt
- Thunder

Espeon
Espeon
- Mud-Slap
- Swift
- Reflect
- Psychic

Snorlax
Snorlax
- Amnesia
- Snore
- Rest
- Body Slam

Venusaur
Venusaur
- Sunny Day
- Giga Drain
- Synthesis
- SolarBeam

Charizard
Charizard
- Flamethrower
- Wing Attack
- Slash
- Fire Spin

Blastoise
Blastoise
- Rain Dance
- Blizzard
- Surf
- Whirlpool

Blue's

Pidgeot
Pidgeot
- Quick Attack
- Whirlwind
- Wing Attack
- Mirror Move

Alakazam
Alakazam
- Disable
- Recover
- Reflect
- Psychic

Rhydon
Rhydon
- Fury Attack
- Sandstorm
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake

Gyarados
Gyarados
- Twister
- Hydro Pump
- Rain Dance
- Hyper Beam

Exeggutor
Exeggutor
- Sunny Day
- Leech Seed
- Egg Bomb
- SolarBeam

Arcanine
Arcanine
- Roar
- Swift
- Flamethrower
- ExtremeSpeed

Let me know guys!
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What exactly is the question? Who would win? That's very hard to tell. I guess we could point flaws in team building ans strategy but it very much depends on he skill of the player, and we can't really compare the AI's skill close enough to decide which is better.
i thought red had a lapras
@ AreWeFreshYet?
I edited the questions so they were a bit more clear, let me know if I could still be of assistance!

@Yang
Nope apparently.
I'm writing a question as we speak that focuses on that matter, so look forward to that ;)
I'm answering but it might take a little while
Red had an Espeon in the orginal G/S/C but was replaced with Lapras for unknown reasons... still don't get why they did that :/

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First Part: Competitive standard.
Red's team is made from primarily UU tier members (UU being the third highest tier). UU means that the Pokemon are usable and good in general, but somewhat outclassed or targeted and countered by the majority of OU Pokemon. UU Pokemon are by no means bad, but not too great either. If you gave either Charizard or Venusaur a Mega stone, it would be OU.

The Pokemon's tiers specifically are:

  • Pikachu PU
  • Snorlax UU
  • Charizard UU (OU with Mega Stones)
  • Venusaur UU (OU with Mega Stone)
  • Blastoise RU (UU with Mega Stone)

I'm not sure whether or not you wish to include Mega stones, so I'll talk as if this is a UU team.

Individual analysation

Red's Team

With Gyarados and Alakazam, Blue's team is technically OU. The specific tiers are:

  • Pidgeot PU
  • Alakazam OU
  • Rhydon NU
  • Gyarados OU
  • Exeggutor PU
  • Arcanine UU

However despite the higher tier placement, 2 Pokemon here are PU and one NU, making the general team not as balanced as Red's. Granted the PUs are better than Pikachu, they're still not competitive in general.

Individual Analysation:

I did an entire analysation for blue and I lost it when I DC's, so here's the shortened version.

Pidegot is very weak without a mega stone. Defog is nice though, Brave Bird is okay.
Alakazam has to use it's revenge killing and/or sweeping stats better with a Sash revenge killer or Sub+3 attacks with LO.
Rhydon can counter certain powerful threats but is very exposed to others. Use conservatively and often as fodder.
Gyarados disgusts me with this set. Either DDance + SubBounce _ Waterfall or standard DDance set. Or Mega stone.
Eggy other there is useless generally, gets picked off by everything and everyone.
Arcanine is good but needs better coverage as it lacks survivability in OU. Flare Blitz, Crunch and Close Combat with ExSpeed.

Team generally can counter powerful threats but gets pummeled by other even more powerful, more prominent threats. A single loss can result in the rest f the team being sweeped, and it carries dead weight with Eggy and somewhat with Tweety

So, against one another? Like I said it's very hard to say, neither teams hold up competitively. But since Red is far less dependent on specific members, has has more coverage overall (Venu beats Rhydon, Charizard beats Eggy, Blastoise beats Arcanine) I'd give the edge to Red.

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Really a nice answer Fresh!
Congrats!