Wall for Tensa Zangetsu (page 3)

True LMAO (insert person talking to a brick wall meme here)

Ok, soo basically, there was this person said they were going to play like NatDex RU or something to get away from people using legendaries because he finds them to be broken and even said legendaries like Regigigas and Uxie can be broken as well (these two were examples asked by the NDUU room driver about all legendaries being broken). The room driver said that he was arguing in bad faith because of that and mentions how Gliscor can 1v1 most legendaries, then the room driver said that legendaries were basically no different than high stat Pokemon with sometimes good movepools. One of the Room owners even said that legendaries aren't really different from high stat Pokemon aside from lore and being hard to catch in-game, with the ladder not meaning "diddly squat" on Pokemon Showdown. Then, a room voice mentioned how Articuno is B- in BDSP PU, a metagame without Heavy-Duty Boots, which lead to the person who thinks all legendaries are broken saying this:

"The rocks don't seem worth it, never have been. the simple answer to the rocks is to not switch out. You know, actually having faith in what you send out. But' that's just me. From what's i've seen, switching back and forth and back only leads to your opponent seeing that you have no idea what to do, and the rest is history"

(Just like the room voice who stepped in... I... also don't know what to make of that comment)

This led to the room voice saying that switching out isn't a sign of defeat and that switching out is one of competitive players' most important tools to reposition out of a bad matchups. The "legends are broken" person said that switching just delays the inevitable, saying the following:

"see, when your opponent can switch too, they do it, and often, the moment the mon being harassed is off the field, it leaves... just to come back the moment it's back"

 which led to the room driver saying that logic is flawed, even saying this:

"so you're saying that because the game is gonna end anyways
i should just... not play the game?"

The "legends are broken" person even said that the opponent switches Pokemon to scare out your Pokemon, only to switch out the moment it's gone, saying something players using Landours-Therian do (Yeah Idk what to say about that)

The room driver then asked what is the difference between the opponent switching out and him switching out because the person who thinks all legends are broken basically said that you should stick to the Pokemon you send out as if Pokemon was a game of "willpower" or something like that. The room driver then said he was done with it for his mental's sake...

I even copy pasted what went down and put it into a Pokepaste since the NDUU room is mostly inactive at times. Just let me know if you want to read all of what went down LOL

yeah, I still have next year in gen9
plus this is the perfect time to grind up my new account for my rebranding
also i have school and would probably rather put less effort into competitive this year so lol

top 40 didnt matter rip
yeah ik I'm just a really socially awkward person so I kinda hope that I don't have to reach out to others lol

Also there was a whole entire debate about legendaries and switching out in competitive Pokemon by a NDUU room driver and someone who doesn't like using legendaries LMAO

Yeah NDUU is less offense oriented, the most common type of teams there are Bulky Offense teams, there are HO teams and stall teams that will be be seen. (I've been using HO teams lately there). I also signed up for NDFL but didn't get drafted, I forgot to reach out to managers, but maybe it's for the best so I can focus on the NU Seasonals Tournament.

yeah I didn't know that I should have reached out to managers lol, I kinda thought they went off of ladder rating and stats

Yeah, quite a shame for MBeedrill since it has a cool design... And as for Iron Moth, it is manageable at times, but the set that pushes it imo is its pivot set:

Iron Moth @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Fiery Dance
- Sludge Wave
- U-turn
- Morning Sun

Want to switch Ting-Lu to check Iron Moth? Get U-turned on and now you have a Mienshao staring you down. There's also this funny Ting-Lu overload HO strat that uses Grassium Z Blacephalon to severely weaken or OHKO Ting-Lu depending on how much you chipped Ting-Lu, which opens up for Booster Energy: Speed Iron Moth to clean late game. It also doesn't help NDOU took a check in Mega Tyranitar, who still did get chipped by Iron Moth's pivot set.

I already tried M. Pinsir Bug, it works, but bug does suck into matchups like Electric xd. NDUU is fine, Clefable is the best Pokemon in NDUU, Iron Moth is cringe, there's probably some consideration of NDUU retesting to unban Kommo-o, Mega Pinsir, and Drizzle. Also, Mega Beedrill is literally made fun of on the NDUU VR in the D rank section lmao

also hitting 1600 with 36 games is genuinely insane, I feel like I always match up with lower elo players and either gain almost no elo or lose massive chunks