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Ubers Rain Team??

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Kyogre @ Choice Specs
Trait: Drizzle
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
EVs: 252 SAtk/ 212 Spd/ 118 HP
- Thunder
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Water Spout

Specs Weather Setter. 100% accurate Thunder with Specs is amazing, Ice Beam covers all of the Dragons in Ubers and also Punishes Groudon in Sun the way Surf can't. STAB Surf plus Rain is beast. Water Spout STAB in Rain at Max HP with Specs.... yeah.....

Lugia @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP/ 240 Spd/ 16 Def
- Ice Beam
- Earth Power
- Calm Mind
- Roost

this set is baws. CM boosts Lugia's SDef to even more ridiculously evil levels, pumps SAtk to respectable levels as well, and lets Lugia Tank all sortsa hits due to its Typing. Ice Beam covers Dragons and gives Freeze chance, making it Lugia's main attack. Earth Power was chosen over Thunder to cover Electric Types and Rock Types, which both hurt Lugia, as well as Fire types like BoostiKen who also can pack Stone Edge. Roost and Leftovers combined with Pressure and SDef boosts from CM and the loss of Flying type makes an awesome Staller and Special Wall.

Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Trait: Iron Barbs
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
EVs: 252 Def/ 240 SDef/ 16 HP
IVs: 0 Spd
- Gyro Ball
- Stealth Rock
- Leech Seed
- Spikes

Hazard Setter. Stealth Rock, Leech Seed, and Spikes all set up pain, and STAB Gyro Ball with 0 Spd IVs and a -Spd nature helps do some damage without beingg completely helpless.

Palkia @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Pressure
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
EVs: 252 SDef/ 212 HP/ 40 SAtk
- Spatial Rend
- Aura Sphere
- Thunder
- Surf

Excadrill @ Leftovers
Trait: Mold Breaker
Adamant Nature (+Atk,-SAtk)
EVs: 176 HP/ 60 Atk/ 252 SDef/ 20 Spd
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Swords Dance
- Substitute

Bulky Spinner to open up for my others weak to Rocks or T Spikes. Swords Dance allows STAB Earthquake to hurt big time.

Dragonite @ Leftovers
Trait: Multiscale
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
EVs: 252 SAtk/ 252 Spd/ 4 Def
- Hurricane
- Surf
- Draco Meteor
- Roost

Special Tank Dragonite. Bulk + Power + Multiscale.....

so that's it. what do you think??

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Just a few points to make.

First on Kyogre just use 16 speed as you need allot of Hp investment to help suvive, the 16 will help you out speed all the pokemon that don't run more than 217 speed.

On Ferrothorn your going to be only wanting to use 1 of the two hazards, he doesnt have that much time to set up and stall if your putting 4 layers of spikes.
For the sake of SR hitting everything in Ubers use that.
instead of spikes run protect which helps stall the opponent out as well as giving you some nice recovery, also helps you stall deoxys out better.
As for Gyro Ball i dont like it. Even with that set it is 2hkoing Deoxys-s and deoxys is only ment to suvive 2 turns anyway.
The rain provides it with the bulk so invest in atk and consider running impish 31 speed with power whip.
Power whip hits most of ubers hard as well as having nice pp.
With that set you can outspeed opposing ferrothorns :D and all paralysed pokemon that tend to run less than 230 speed.

Palkia is good though go Timid, it helps you take extrme speed better.
Also consider modest as Palkia has 110 speed opposed to most scarfed abuser 90, you will tend to find Palkia will outspeed most pokemon even with modest.

Swords dance is not beneficial here just makes you set up bate.
Loose sub for Shadow claw to help make swords dance usable.

Dragonites SAtk is decent for Ou but not in Ubers, multiscale will be broken almost instantly by rocks which are always up in ubers and then its not got the speed to roost.
Palkia is already a bulky pokemon with the same coverage.
Hurricane isnt brilliant or needed coverage just powerfull stab so maybe replace dragonite.

Lugia set needs revising.

Looks decent for an Ubers beginer.
Also im sure your seen it (just got the impression you haven't by the fact you haven't commented) but i answered your sun team a few days ago, i would just like to here a responce, if it wasn't what you were looking for feel free to say.
so if i fix Kyogres EVs, Redo Ferry, and add Shadow Claw on Excadrill, Go Modest with Palkia, and Switch D-Nite for maybe either Scarfed Deoxys-A, or Life Orb Deoxs-S, what would you fix about Lugia?
Its to mixed in SDef and Offence and it isnt working it leaves you open to pokemon like arceus.
Multiscale Lugia hasn't been released yet right?
It has. Pokemon Dream Radar has it so that with SoulSilver in the slot you are able to catch Multiscale Lugia.
so if i switched Lugia to:

Lugia @ Leftovers
Trait: Multiscale
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP/ 212 Def/ 44 Spd
- Ice Beam
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Reflect/Substitute

maybe it would be more effective? any suggestions?

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I might as well as rate this, since I haven't rated any RMT's in a while.


First of all, Surf might do damage, but Hydro Pump does massive damage. Unless you miss, of course. So decide if you want to take that risk. And I find 252 Speed with Timid very useful on Specs Kyorge.


Wow. First time seeing Lugia without Whirlwind xD But lots of water types can wall this set, including other Kyorges, packed with Thunder. I personally think Thunder > Earth Power is the better choice, as Blaziken is seen less (at least by me) and Ice Beam can cover rock but unfortunately not Electric types. So the choice is ultimately yours, in the end. And, Substitute would be really helpful here over Earth Power/Ice Beam anyway. Helps you set up CM more.


Stealth Rock is only needed if you really want to set up a lot, but it's not even garanteed you'll set up 3 layers of Spikes. Not to mention Leech Seed. Power Whip over Gyro Ball.


No speed EV's won't out speed a lot even with Choice Scarf. I suggest this EV spread: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe with Modest or Timid. That'll at least garantee you from outspeeding some unboosted Pokemon. And it will make this a full time sweeper :) Other than that, this Palkia is good to go.


Swords Dance with only EQ is not the best combe, if a flying type comes in then you're totally screwed. Substitute or Rapid Spin for another move, most notably Rock Slide or Shadow Claw.


Dragonite is screwed in Ubers, it's just not strong enough here. At least most of the time. I'll add a Pokemon if you want to replace Dragonite.

Giratina @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Calm Mind
- Dragon Pulse
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Giratina checks lots of threats in Uber, mainly ExtremeKillerArceus and Chansey :P Lots of physical Dragons will find it hard to OHKO Giratina due it's super defense. Then Calm Mind boosts it's SpD, making it the most epic wall of all time.
I'm not the best in Uber, so these suggestions won't all work. But hopefully some of these will make this team better, hope it does!

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I disagree with some of these, but I'm too lazy to answer. So...

252 HP on Specsogre

No Excadrill without sand

Giratina is nice, but remember, it has two huge weaknesses.
I don't usually like to replace Pokemon on people's teams, so I thought Dragonite needs to be replaced more than Excadrill. And Excadrill can do fine without sand. And for Kyorge, I never replaced 252 HP....
excadrill is brilliant out of sand
Won't it get outsped and taken out? Low speed, low defenses...
It's speed isn't incredibly low give it 16 speed Evs and your out speeding thusly the tier already.
It is usually used for the rapid spin support but it can deal nice damage and has nice defensive typing.
Scarfs... Darkrai... Mewtwo... Arceus... Priority...
No one said all of the tier, just some of it.