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Politoed (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Protect
- Perish Song
- Toxic

Thundurus-Therian (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Thunder
- Nasty Plot
- Focus Blast
- Grass Knot

Cloyster (M) @ Focus Sash
Trait: Skill Link
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Jolly Nature
IVs: 30 Atk / 30 SAtk
- Icicle Spear
- Shell Smash
- Rapid Spin
- Rock Blast

Tornadus-Therian (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Regenerator
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature
- Hurricane
- Focus Blast
- Air Slash
- U-turn

Dragonite (F) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Multiscale
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- ExtremeSpeed
- Outrage
- Fire Punch

Scizor (M) @ Expert Belt
Trait: Technician
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Bullet Punch
- Bug Bite
- Swords Dance
- Pursuit

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Politoed is good but I don't know why you have 4 Speed EV's? I mean it can take a hit and it's not going to outspeed anyone soon. Go for SpD EV's. The moves and all are good :D


Thunderus-T, while good at sweeping, lacks some base speed even with Timid. Agility might suit you better, but not that I don't think Nasty Plot is bad or anything. Also, I prefer Focus Blast over Grass Knot, it covers more and Thunder covers Water anyway. Anyway, I think a Scarf or Agility will be better, but it's your choice ;)


While good, Focus Sash is useless, 80% of the time on your team. Since you don't have a spinner, and the growing use of SR and Spikes and Toxic Spikes, Focus Sash goes bye-bye. Have Life Orb or White Herb. Also, I think you're mixing two different roles into one. Spinner and Shell Smasher doesn't go well. Either have one, or the other. So like I said, if you want to go with Spinner, it's Defense comes into play. You can also use it as a POke to lay out Spikes.


Why go with Timid when you have Scarf? That makes no sense, plus Modest gives it enough juice to hit extra hard. But, Tornadus-T is a great Life Orb abuser, the Regenerator heals back any damage done to it. Also, Specs is an option. Just saying.


No comment, it's good as it is :D


Why Pursuit. I know it gets Technician boost, but something like Superpower hits extremely hard, even to resist, after some Swords Dance's. And, Life Orb is an option.
Nice team overall, just know that you don't have a lot of walls. But you already know that ;) Good team, and good luck with it.

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*Kings rock cloyster
Pursuit on scizor hits the ghosts that wall that scizor and psychics switching...?
>> Does Bug Bite mean nothing to you
ghosts resist bug bite if you haven't last checked and pursuit actually hits the psychics switching
Not what I meant. Bullet Punch for ghosts. Bug Bite for Psychic's if they switch to bad, another Pokemon gets hit by Bug Bite.
will fire punch damage decrease cause of rain?
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If you want to run perish song, be evil and do whirlpool. It traps the opponent into battle. Replace scald with whirlpool. Scald is for burning and if you have toxic then you cant use both.. You could replace toxic with whirlpool or just dont even use whirlpool at all. DOnt run speed evs because you cant outspeed anyone with politoed. Its too slow. maybe invest 4 special attack evs or put them in special defense.


I would run agility > nasty plot. It already has massive special attack along with life orb. It can outspeed terrakion scarfed, and keldeos that can otherwise counter your Thundurus scarfed with HP Ice. The other moves you chose where great.


What is up with those IV's? Put them back up to 31. Cloyster can force a lot of pokemon to switch and then would be the perfect time to shell smash. If doing this combo then kings rock would be more than necessary. It makes the opponent switch so many times. And Ice Shard > Rapid Spin on it because it fears dragonite with extreme speed and it can even do lots to scizor.


Nice but I suggest you do this:

Tornadus @ Life Orb / Choice Specs
Trait: Regenoratior
Evs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty/Naive Nature (To actually do damage with U-Turn)
- U-Turn
- Hurricane
- Grass Knot
- Focus Blast


You have 4 special attackers and 2 physical. That's not right. And your team needs a rapid spinner badly. And one that is superior to all others in rain is:

Starmie @ Life Orb
Trait: Natural Cure
Evs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid / Modest Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Hydro Pump
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam


Good, but if your running swords dance you need bulk. Scizor isn't outspeeding anything its so slow. Adamant > Jolly. 252 HP EVs for bulk 252 To hit hard and 4 Defense For some physical Bulk
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That Politoed strategy is good if you honestly want to loose your Politoed. Not only is it gimmicky but requires an extra turn set up. Politoed is a weather setter not death fodder.
I said you might not even have to use it at all. Its up to him
Extremespeed has a higher priority than ice shard
cloyster > starmie