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Whimsicott @ Focus Sash
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Modest Nature
- Tailwind
- Moonblast
- Memento
- Taunt

Butterfree @ Leftovers
Gigantamax: Yes
Shiny: Yes
Ability: Compound Eyes
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Modest Nature
- Hurricane
- Sleep Powder
- Substitute
- Quiver Dance

Cinderace @ Life Orb
Shiny: Yes
Gigantamax: Yes
Ability: Libero
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Jolly Nature
- Pyro Ball
- Bounce
- Low Kick (can't get High Jump Kick, this is in game, it was traded to me, it didn't have it) / High Jump Kick (on showdown)
- Gunk Shot

Dracozolt @ Life Orb
Ability: Hustle
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Aerial Ace
- Bolt Beak
- Fire Fang
- Dragon Claw

Whimsicott is my supporter. Moonblast for dragons and darks, Taunt is Taunt, Tailwind helps Butterfree outspeed and get a Sleep Powder in, and Memento helps get it out of battle while crippling them. Butterfree comes in, Sleep Powders, Subs, Quiver Dances to max, then sweeps. Cinderace is my Dynamax sweeper, Bounce makes me fast in Dynamax, Pyro Ball is insanely powerful in Gigantamax form, Low Kick does the most in Dynamax for fighting moves and is the best, Gunk Shot is coverage. Dracozolt is my second dynamax sweeper, it boosts speed with Aerial Ace in dynamax, Bolt Beak is STAB that benefits from Aerial Ace in dynamax, Fire Fang is coverage, and Dragon Claw is STAB that lowers Special Attack in dynamax.

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Why are there only three Pokemon? I don't play BSS but I'm pretty sure you can bring six and choose three to use in battle.
What else should I use though I don't know also I'm too lazy to get anything else it will already take a lot of time to get this in game this is a hypothetical team I'm using on showdown
Use Moonblast instead of Dazzling Gleam.
Very frail team, with some crucial weaknesses. Landorus-T is a very common mon and destroys cinderace,  leaving your remaining members broken by pokemon such as ferrothorn. I would recommend a few more offensive mons.
You have two gigantamax Pokémon, but you can only dynamax/gigantamax one Pokémon per battle/
I bring 2 gmax pokemon because in case I lose 1 I can gmax the other. Also, there isn't a rule that you can only bring 1 gmax pokemon. Also, it doesn't really matter, and this question is already resolved, so why did you comment?

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Very late.

Butterfree as a pokemon has several checks and counters that are popular in the meta. For the time being I'll only list the counters in the top 15 as those will be the most threatening to it:

  • Zapdos

    Zapdos @ Life Orb
    Ability: Static
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk

  • Thunderbolt
  • Heat Wave
  • Hurricane
  • Roost

This is the most common set for Zapdos, and while it isn't very threatening if Butterfree gets several quiver dances up, but if not you better believe that Butterfree is about to get nuked. Plus it gets access to Max Airstream when maxed, boosting its speed anyway. It also resists Butterfree's only attacking move, so there's that as well.

  • Cinderace

    Cinderace @ Life Orb
    Gigantamax: Yes
    Ability: Libero
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
    Jolly Nature

  • Pyro Ball
  • Bounce
  • High Jump Kick
  • Sucker Punch

This mon doesn't care if Butterfree has boosts up, it nukes it anyway. It threatens a fast Butterfree quite a bit with Sucker Punch while Max Airstream can boost its speed.

  • Landorus-Therian

    Landorus-Therian (M) @ Lum Berry
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature

  • Swords Dance
  • Rock Tomb
  • Earthquake
  • Fly

This mon threatens Butterfree, especially with Lum Berry since straight afterwards it can just go to town with Max Airstream or use Rock Tomb to melt through Butterfree.

  • Tapu Fini

    Tapu Fini @ Leftovers
    Ability: Misty Surge
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk

  • Calm Mind
  • Moonblast
  • Surf
  • Taunt

The most common variant of Fini. It gets Misty Surge, meaning that it can't be put to sleep, in addition to Taunt, shutting down Butterfree almost completely while it clicks calm mind safely. I think that this mon is probably the biggest threat to Butterfree in the entire list.

  • Dragonite

    Dragonite @ Weakness Policy
    Ability: Multiscale
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Adamant Nature

  • Dragon Dance
  • Dual Wingbeat
  • Ice Punch
  • Outrage

I don't think that I have to explain this one very much either. Dragonite is yet another mon that gets access to Max Airstream, which means another mon that can kill Butterfree. Even when it does go to sleep, it can tank the first move that Butterfree throws out thanks to Multiscale.

  • Celesteela

    Celesteela @ Weakness Policy
    Ability: Beast Boost
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
    Modest Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk

  • Leech Seed
  • Flash Cannon
  • Air Slash
  • Flamethrower

We have yet another mon that can use Max Airstream. Like Zapdos, it resists Butterfree's hurricane and even when Butterfree gets to a very high special defense, Celesteela can still safely play the long game with Leech Seed(that is if you don't have a substitute off).

  • Nihilego

    Nihilego @ Power Herb
    Ability: Beast Boost
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk

  • Meteor Beam
  • Sludge Wave
  • Power Gem
  • Grass Knot

This mon threatens an OHKO with Meteor Beam. Since Meteor Beam also gets Nihilego to +1 special attack and then Beast Boost gets it to +2, this mon starts snowballing very quickly and threatens the sweep of your entire team.

So, here are my picks for countering these pokemon:

Tapu Fini:

Tapu Fini @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Misty Surge
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Moonblast
- Trick

Your team has a pretty big weakness to Landorus-Therian who is unaffected by Dracozolt's main STAB, as well as being a pretty good check to Cinderace. As such, Tapu Fini is an excellent pick. When scarfed, it outspeeds Landorus-T and pressures it with Ice Beam. It also works as a check to Dragonite. In addition, the suprise factor of scarf may be able to pick up a free KO into a Cinderace. Surf and Moonblast are pretty self-explanatory, they are Fini's STABs, while trick helps out against stall based mons.

Dragonite:

Dragonite @ Maranga Berry
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Ice Punch
- Dual Wingbeat
- Roost

Dragonite's amazing ability helps it with tanking through Cinderace and Zapdos while threatening them back with being able to set up Dragon Dances. It also helps as another sweeper that takes advantage of Whimsicott's setup enabling. Garchomp was another candidate for beating Cinderace and Zapdos but given how reliant it is on its dragon STAB(which is weakened by Fini's misty terrain) and how Dragonite isn't, I decided to the latter instead. I think that Dragonite completely outclasses Dracozolt, so it should probably replace it. I also think that it helps with the Urshifu matchup a ton(current team has no switchins to choice banded variants), so there's also that.

Porygon2:

Porygon2 @ Eviolite
Ability: Analytic
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Facade
- Iron Tail
- Recover
- Ice Beam

Porygon2 provides a counter to Nihilego, which the team currently has no switch-ins, as well as another counter for Zapdos(which you really can't have too many of) and Landorus-T as well. The set is a bit niche with a physical Iron Tail set, but that's just to counter Nihilego. Other than that, I really don't have much to say about it.

Zapdos:

Zapdos @ Life Orb
Ability: Static
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Heat Wave
- Hurricane
- Roost

Zapdos is a more optional mon since it and Cinderace have very similar roles. They both check Celesteela and the choice really comes down to whether you want a better Fini matchup(Zapdos) or a better Porygon2 matchup(Cinderace). I prefer Cinderace more due its more diverse movepool but the choice is up to you.

There aren't really too many problems with the last two mons on the team so I'm not going to comment on them, although you probably want to change the nature to timid on them.

Pokepaste

Hope I helped!

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Wait, there are 7 pokemon, do I choose between cinderace or zapdos, or what? Also, thanks a lot!