Why does it seem like the games favor the wild or opposing Pokemon?

Question

Final Edit: I'm sorry for the hostility I put forth in this topic. I've deleted it, for the course not having any more reason for it. I've discovered the issue that it was centric mostly in Ruby and my problems happened rarely in the later games. For those of you who offered help, I thank you greatly for it. I apologize for my rude behavior and hope that I can be forgiven.

For the others who reacted to my hostility, I'm sorry for pushing your buttons. Thank you all for your help.

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Can you give us an example of one of the scenarios please.

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The hypnotize may "seem" to not affect their pokemon because it has low accuracy and misses.

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I know the difference between 'Missed' and 'It doesn't effect'.

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Sandshrew shouldn't get paralyzed xP

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I fixed my mistake. I often confuse Shockwave with Thunder Wave. Boy do I have egg on my face.

Answer 1

I will write up some of the moves and abilities here that you may be having problems with,

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Confuse Ray - Ghost type - It will affect normal types
Hypnosis - Psychic type - It will affect Dark types
Leech Seed - Grass type - It will Not affect other grass types
Mean Look - Normal type - It will affect Ghost types
Poison Gas - Poison type - It will Not affect steel types or poison types
Poison Powder - Poison Type - It will Not affect Steel or poison types
Roar - Normal Type - It will affect Ghost types
Skill Swap - psychic type - It will affect Dark type
Swagger - normal type - it Will affect ghost types
Thunder Wave - Electric type - it will not affect ground or electric types
Will-O-Wisp - Fire Type - it will not affect Fire types
Toxic - Poison Type - it will not affect steel or Poison types

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If Im missing anything feel free to comment and I can edit.

As to your Ground types being affected by electric moves Im not sure. But again the above status moves may be some of the problems you're having.

Comments

Thanks for the list. I did find a few in here I hadn't known before, so I'm actually grateful for this answer.

Answer 2

Ok,I did some research and I found something.

Certain moves are effective to a type they are normally unefective.For example.Sand-Attack is the only Ground-type move that can hit Flying-type Pokémon under normal circumstances, since most status moves are exempt from type matchups.Hypnosis is effective to dark types.They will both hit since they are not damage dealing moves,they are status moves

Now,as for Toxic on steel and Thunder Wave on ground,it's not normal for that to happen.And as Babothegreat said,the opponent may have Synchronise.

Comments

A: I've come to terms that my copies are glitching.

B: I never said that I caused status effects that were then backfired thanks to synchronize. I was pretty clear about stating that the moves were working on mine, but not on opponents.

Answer 3

Are you sure they are using the attacks you mentioned? Because they might be using the ability synchronize or static on you.

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This is going to sound very angry, and honestly, I don't mean it. This is just the best way to answer the question:

Wild Musharna uses Hypnotise
Purrloin falls asleep

YES I'M SURE.

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Oh, ok. Sorry, I can't help you. :(

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Purrloin does not have an ability that would keep her from falling asleep. Her abilities are Limber and Unburden. Neither keep her awake.

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Then explain how If I use Hypnotize on ANY dark pokemon regardless of ability, it is immune because it is a psychic move.

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Ahhhh I get your confusion. Hypnotize and most other status moves, with the exception of Toxic and other poisoning/poison type moves, ignore the types of pokemon. So even though Hypnotize is a psychic move it will still effect dark types. It's the same thing as body slam paralyzing a ground type.

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Hypnosis does not follow type immunities. It still affects Dark types, even though it's a Psychic move. Only Pokemon with Insomnia or Vital Spirit as abilities won't be affected.

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Nah, Body Slam follows typing rules; Paralysis affects all Pokemon inclu. Electric and Ground types, but Body Slam wouldn't work on a Ghost Pokemon.

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And again, no one is listening. I know in battles against other players it will work. HOWEVER, in fighting a wild Pokemon, or an NPC trainer, it doesn't on my copies of the games. If I use Shock wave on say... Sandshrew a well known ground type, it will state that Shandshrew is immune and it will not paralyze it. However, if I were to have a sandshrew and say my NPC opponent has a Pikachu and that NPC uses shockwave, it will effect my sandshrew.

Better way of saying it:
NPCs pokemon that are immune to types are immune to EVERYTHING of that type

Player Pokemon that are immune to types ARE NOT.

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What games are you playing?

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Ruby, Soul Silver, Diamon, Black, White, Black 2. I get the same results in every one of them.

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So electric attack moves are hitting and dealing damage to your ground type pokemon, do I have that right? And is it the same with Flying types and ground types? And Steel and Poison types?

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No. Again, no one is paying attention. EFFECT ONLY moves, such as Shock wave, Hypnosis, Toxic, and Sand-Attack are hitting my pokemon regardless of type, unless their ability nullifies it.

Those same moves NEVER hit an NPC in my game if their type causes immunity.

Edit: My apologies, I meant Thunder Wave.

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Ok a couple things.
1) we are paying attention.
2) Hypnosis does not have type immunities. Sand-Attack does not have type immunities, Shock Wave is an attack move and should not affect Ground types, Toxic should not affect Steel or Poison types, although they may have used a move such as Soak before the status move which changes your pokemons type.

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Sorry for the testy answers. Look, if they were using anything to alter the playing field I would have said so. If Synchronize was a factor, I would not have said anything. If Soak was used, I wouldn't have said anything. If there was a logical explanation I wouldn't have said anything.

NPCs in every game I play that are Gound, Flying, Steel, Ghost, Normal, Dark... they have Immunity to EVERY move of the type they are immune to. No matter what move, whether effect only, or damage causing, it never hits them if they have the type immunity in my games.

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Well I would say that your games are malfunctioning or whatever, but you say that it happens in every one of them. If there's one you bought recently try returning it for a new game and see if it has the same problems. Because these things definitely shouldn't be happening, and I cant find anyone else who says that it's happened to them.

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It's not game breaking, it's just annoying and I'm trying to find out why it's happening. Hell, the way you just said, it seems to only happen to me. I must be a malfunction magnet.

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Yeah :/ and I can understand why it's annoying. But if there is a game that you bought recently and can still return, try it because some games can come off the shelf with problems, and you're the unlucky guy who got them all.

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I most recently got Black 2, and though I have had the problems with the prior games, those were my issues. I haven't gotten very far into Black 2 yet. I'm currently running a Nuzlocke on White and after checking my previous games for this very glitch, It was fully brought to my attention. Black 2 hasn't posed any problems yet.

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- Thunderwave should not affect Ground type Pokemon. However, Ground type Pokemon can get Paralysed via an opponent's Static ability.
- Hypnosis only has a 60% accuracy rate, so it's still liable to miss your opponent. You've just been unlucky.

Also, the early games have a lot of glitches. The later ones, even Gen V, do as well, but they're less common (from my own experience).

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I know the difference between 'The attack missed' and 'It doesn't effect' When I use Hypnosis on a dark type, and I read the text prompt and it says 'It does not effect Wild [insert Pokemon without Vital Spirit or Insomnia here]' I'm fairly certain that does not mean I missed. I know that's probably not what it says verbatim, but you get the basic gist. I use it, the game tells me that it doesn't effect the dark type I used it on.

Answer 4

Excusing your relative rudeness, you should also be aware that some trainer Pokemone have items, which could ensure your moves are useless. As for the wild Pokemon, there are a few with abilities which defy typing, such as rampardos, who has mold breaker which means he can use any type of move on any Pokemon. ( example: rampardos can use ground against flying, and normal against ghost.)

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To make a small correction, this mainly applies to the other types abilities, such as levitate etc. and is probably one of the main reason the npc's hit you.

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I am sorry for my hostility, but as I said previously, if there had been any abilities involved that would have stopped the problem, I wouldn't be having this issue. I made it rather clear with examples I have dealt with. I am aware of what Mold Breaker does, but Sandshrew, Pidgey, and Purrloin do not have Mold Breaker.

I'm happy you have brought it to my attention, but this isn't a case of 'That's not fair Pokemon, why u so cheating!'. This is a case of; I have run into something that has no logical explination to it, and it seems to happen in every game I play.

So when I use Hypnotize on a wild Purrloin, and the game legitimately states 'It doesn't effect it', this isn't Mold Breaker, or Chesto Berry, or "Hold item say what?" this is a case of some kind of glitch that i always find.