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If a Pokémon in a max raid battle were to set up a shield, would Unseen Fist bypass it? Will Unseen Fist bypass Max Guard?

Here is a replay of me trying the latter question: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2020-1153423999

It appears to not bypass the Max Guard
Omg the nicknames are amazing. Also, thanks! You could put that as an answer, since it goes against what the other one says.
TOP SNEK!  Also, no problem.  I'll at it as an answer and try to find one for the first part.

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To answer the first part of your question, Unseen Fist does not bypass a Max Raid Pokemon's Shield. I apologize for not having any proof, but in Sword, my Urshifu Multi Strike Form used Aerial Ace on a 5-Star Vikavolt. It was down to it's shield, and I hit it. It had the exact same effect as a normal move used, where it did a bit of Chip Damage and broke one part of the shield.

To answer the second part of your question, Unseen Fist does not bypass Max Guard. In the replay below, when Darkness Lariat is used on the Max Guarding Azumarill, it says "The opposing Also Not Top Snek [Azumarill] protected itself!"

Replay: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8vgc2020-1153423999

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I know that it's Gigantimax Move can go through Max Guard, however.  Just mentioning it for the sake of it.
Oh, that's good to know, thank you :)
What a beautiful message Showdown said.

Also, thank you! :)
No problem, lol :)
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From the official Pokemon website: Dark-type attacks used by Single Strike Style Gigantamax Urshifu will change to G-Max One Blow. Water-type attacks used by Rapid Strike Style Gigantamax Urshifu will change to G-Max Rapid Flow. G-Max One Blow and G-Max Rapid Flow can deal damage even if a target defends itself by using moves like Max Guard or Protect.

If you look at the ability on its own, contact moves can bypass all protecting moves, not including max guard.

Here is the page link (forgot to put it the first time and the second time):https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Unseen_Fist_(Ability)

According to this video, urshifu activated unseen fist with max knuckle, a contact move, and it did not pass through a raid boss shield. It only took out two shields, which is the norm for max moves.

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I’m talking about the ability, not moves. If Unseen Fist is Skill Swapped, will regular contact moves bypass Max Guard and those shields that max raid battle Pokémon have?
Well, if you look at the bulbapedia page, it says it can pass through all protecting moves not including max guard from various sources, but it only works on physical moves. Lemme change my answer real quick
But still, does it bypass the shields that Max Raid Pokemon put up?
If you watch this video, gmax urshifu which still has unseen fist, used max knuckle, and it only broke the two shields like all max moves do, which means that unseen fist doesn't pass through. Here is the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SbTXpInr2M
Sorry about misinterpreting your question