Pokémon Rate My Team
0 votes
1,262 views

Tentacruel@ Assault Vest
Calm | Clear Body
240 HP / 188 SpA / 80 SpD
- Acid Spray
- Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb
- Scald


Conkeldurr@ King's Rock
Adamant | Iron Fist
152 HP / 252 Atk / 40 Def / 64 SpD
- Drain Punch
- Ice Punch
- Mach Punch
- Stone Edge


Rotom-Wash@ Sitrus Berry
Modest | Levitate
120 HP / 116 Def / 164 SpA / 108 SpD
- Hydro Pump
- Thunderbolt
- Will-o-Wisp
- Volt Switch


Tyranitar@ Life Orb
Adamant | Unnerve
36 HP / 252 Atk / 116 Def / 104 SpD
- Rock Slide
- Crunch
- Earthquake
- Protect


Scizor@ Occa Berry
Adamant | Technician
248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
- Bullet Punch
- Bug Bite
- Swords Dance
- Roost


Gardevoir@ Gardevoirite
Modest | Synchronize
248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
- Hyper Voice
- Psyshock
- Shadow Ball
- Wish


Any tips and criticism is welcome.

by
edited by

1 Answer

3 votes
 
Best answer

No offense, but this looks like you took a bunch of Smogon Singles sets and slapped them on a VGC team, which is evident by your waste of EVs. This does not work, my friend. VGC and Smogon are completely different playing fields. I'll try to keep changes minimal, for now. All changes will be in bold.


This team looks good at a glance, but once we get into your spreads, movesets and items it begins to fall apart. It has a slight resemblance to the Japan Sand archetype, so I'll try to model it around that.


Your Old Team

TentacruelConkeldurrsRotomTyranitarScizorM-Gardevoir

Your New Team

ExcadrillConkeldurrsRotomTyranitarScizorM-Salamence


Excadrill

Excadrill@ Focus Sash
Adamant | Sand Rush
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
- Iron Head
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Protect

Tentacruel doesn't really have a role to play in VGC, and you already have Rotom as your bulky Water. Your team is also pretty slow. So, I thought Excadrill would be a nice fit for a Sand team. Focus Sash makes up for his frailty. Iron Head OHKOs most Sylveon and offensive Gardevoir. Earthquake is a powerful spread move that deals with things like Aegislash and Mawile. Rock Slide is for those flinches and key KOs on things like Charizard. Protect is vital because of Exca's inability to tke hits and to punish double-targets.


Conkeldurr

Conkeldurr@ Assault Vest
Adamant | Guts
EVs: 212 HP / 84 Atk / 124 Def / 88 SpD
IVs: 15 Spe
- Drain Punch
- Mach Punch
- Ice Punch
- Knock Off

Conkeldurr is pretty good, but the way you're using it is wrong. I changed it to the bulky Assault Vest variant. Your team is also quite weak to status like Spore, Will-o-Wisp and Thunder Wave, so Guts lets you punish predicted status moves. Knock Off is used over Stone Edge for accuracy and the ability to rid the opponent of Sitrus Berries and Choice Scarves. I swiped the EV spread from Nugget Bridge. It survives Hydreiogn's Draco Meteor 100% of the time. The IVs let it underspeed minimum speed Aegislash, letting it KO it in Blade Form.


Rotom

Rotom-Wash@ Sitrus Berry
Calm | Levitate
252 HP / 44 Def / 92 SpA / 100 SpD / 20 Spe
- Hydro Pump
- Thunderbolt
- Thunder Wave
- Protect

Rotom is very good on Sand teams. This EV spread and a Calm nature survives Solar Beam from Charizard most of the time, while also OHKOing bulky Landorus with Hydro Pump. Your team lacks speed control, so Thunder Wave is more useful than WoW and has good surprise value. Protect keeps Rotom in the fight longer.


Tyranitar

Tyranitar@ Choice Scarf
Jolly | Sand Stream
252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 SpD
- Rock Slide
- Crunch
- Ice Punch
- Low Kick

Tyranitar becomes the main attraction and setter of sand with Sand Stream. Choice Scarf and a Jolly nature lets him go fast and speeds up your relatively bulky team. Ice Punch handles most Landorus and Salamence after some chip damage. Low Kick KOs other Tyranitar, Terrakion, and Heatran.


Scizor

Scizor@ Life Orb
Adamant | Technician
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
- Bullet Punch
- Bug Bite
- Roost
- Protect

Scizor appreciates the Life Orb to help him pick up KOs on Sylveon and Gardevoir. On Sciz's EV spread, as with most of your other Pokémon, you were wasting EVs. At Lv. 50, the first 4 EVs equal one point, while every 8 EVs after that equal one stat point. This makes 248 EVs the same as 244 EVs, etc. For the sake of simplicity, Scizor gets a plain 252/252 spread. In VGC you rarely get time to set up Swords Dance without redirection, which you do not have. Therefore, Protect lets Scizor survive to dish out more pain.


M-Salamence

Salamence@ Salamencite
Timid | Intimidate
68 HP / 4 Def / 244 SpA / 4 SpD / 188 Spe
- Hyper Voice
- Flamethrower
- Dragon Pulse
- Protect

Salamence is better than Gardevoir on Sand teams, but you could experiment with both. The EV spread outspeeds max speed Thundurus before it can OHKO you with HP Ice. Hyper Voice is potent Aerilate spread STAB that 2HKOs most of the metagame. Flamethrower handles Ferrothorn and Aegislash. Dragon Pulse is STAB to let you hendle other Dragons and hit Pokémon that resist Hyper Voice and Flamethrower.


This team had a lot of buried potential, and I hope I've helped you realize that. I hope my changes bring you some degree of success!

by
selected by
Has no way to deal with other Dragons since there are certain threats that outspeed Mega Sala when scarfed.
The only relevant Dragons out there are Hydreigon and Salamence (and the odd Latios). Conk, Scizor and Tyranitar can all beat Hydra and Excadrill and Tyranitar reliably beat Salamence after some Sand damage and priority. Rotom can cut them down to size with Thunder Wave. What would you suggest replacing/changing?
More than that this team really hates Gastrodon, which sometimes find their way into Sun teams. Also, imo Iron Fist > Guts for Conkeldurr (because really, nobody tries burning Conk anymore). Just my opinion ^^
The thing is that it is not one simple Pokémon. When playing VGC it is always 2 vs 2 on the field. So Conk, Scizor, Tyranitar can counter the Dragons but can they handle the Pokémon next to it?
Haha, haven't used Conk in a while, so I'm a bit out of date. Iron Fist is becoming more common.

How exactly is anything supposed to counter anything if you take the partner into account? Sure, Landorus can be used as a direct Volcarona check, but if I pair Volca with a Milotic then all of a sudden it's not so great of a check anymore. As stated, it will always be 2v2, which is why you need to be able to beat common pairings and be on your toes for potential switch-ins and such. I say that argument is double-sided. Yes, Hydreigon's partner might be able to handle Scizor. But Scizor will also have a partner who can handle Hydreigon's. There's no perfect team.

Obviously my RMTs are flawed. Should I stop?
Nah it's because you're doing a great job everyone's ganging on you xD
Don't take it too seriously, RMT has always been one hella controversial section where everyone wants things "they're way or no way"
@Grime Time.

There are certain combinations that can counter or get countered completely but there is one thing you need to take in account as well. Speed Tiers. Example:

I have Landorus and Meganium on my side vs your Volcarona and Milotic.

 This is a situation where speed/priority matters. Exactly what you will see in every match. If you counterpick your opponents lead doesn't make you automaticly win the 2 vs 2 since he can have different EVs/Items then you would predict.


Back to the example:

My Landorus is Scarfed and my Meganium is Specs.
Your Volcarona is Sashed and Milotic carries a Sitrus Berry.

Turn 1:
Landorus used Rock Slide!
Volcarona hangs on its Focus Sash!
Volcarona used Bug Buzz!
Meganium fainted.
Milotic used Ice Beam
Landorus fainted.

This example shows how you get counterpicked but it results in a 3-2 lead for you.
What if Rockslide flinches.
@ Tenebrae

Depends on who it flinches;

If it flinches Volcarona:
You gain a 4-3 lead vs Milotic/Volcarona

If it flinches Milotic:
You give away a 4-3 lead towards your opponent since Landorus won't kill Milotic in 2 turns

If it flinches both:

You save your Meganium which can take out the Milotic; you gain a 4-3 lead which results in a 4-2 lead if the opponents Volcarona stays in.
Hey, thanks, those examples helped. I'll keep stuff like that in mind next time.

Oh, btw you switched from Serperior to Meganium somewhere XD
@ Grime time

Speedtiers xP