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Comfey @ Sitrus Berry

EVs: 252 HP/252 Defence/4 Speed
Bold Nature

Draining Kiss
Floral Healing
Taunt
Protect

I’m using Comfey to activate G-Moltres’s Weakness Policy. It can also support by healing Moltres with Floral Healing, Taunt for Dusclops, and Protect for standard. However, I’m thinking that Protect could be replaced by another support move. Do you have any suggestions?

Moltres @ Weakness Policy

EVs: 4 HP/252 SpAtk/252 Speed
Timid Nature

Fiery Wrath
Air Slash
Nasty Plot
Protect

My most powerful sweeper. It hits like a boss and can take a lot of hits. My general dynamax Pokemon. I’m considering using Hurricane over Air Slash for higher BP for Max Airstream as I usually just spam Fiery Wrath when I don’t dyanamax.

Tapu Fini @ Aguav Berry

EVs: 252 HP/252 SpAtk/4 Speed
Modest Nature

Protect
Calm Mind
Moonblast
Muddy Water

A strong, bulky sweeper. Aguav Berry to heal. After using Calm Mind, it barely takes anything from special attacks really. After two, it’s absolutely amazing.

Regieleki @ Magnet

EVs: 4 HP/252 SpAtk/252 Speed
Modest Nature

Protect
Reflect
Electroweb
Thunderbolt

My final special sweeper. I decided to just use Reflect and not Light Screen since Protect was better and I wanted the other moves.

Landorus @ Life Orb

EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Speed
Jolly Nature

Protect
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Fly

My alternative dynamax Pokemon. It’s very strong.

Kartana @ Assault Vest

EVs: 60 HP/4 Defence/252 SpD/4 Atk/188 Speed
Jolly Nature

Leaf Blade
Smart Strike
Sacred Sword
Aerial Ace

My final dynamax option, although it doesn’t do so as much as G-Moltres or Landorus. It’s very strong as a physical attacker, with max SpD EVs and an Assault Vest to make sure it can take special hits.

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Why Magnet on Regieleki? Try Light Clay to increase the duration of Reflect.
Ok, I'll consider it.
I don't know much about VGC, but I do know that investing in Sp. Def wastes EVs on Kartana. You're not likely to live an Eruption or Flamethrower anyways. I would use a Life Orb or Focus Sash, and the standard 252 atk/252 spe/4 def.
It has an av for that reason, and AV is pretty popular on kartana (I've looked it up before)
Yeah, you're still not living many fire moves, but with assault vest + investment + dynamax you'd be surprised to see the kinds of hits it will take. Of course, sash is certainly a great option for this specific team since it's not taken and you say that you don't like to max it as much as the other two.

Also, if you're going to try light clay you should probably commit to dual screens and more bulk.

Additionally, Glastrier STEAMROLLS this team. You need a better counter to it for sure.
Ok, I need a Glastrier counter. I’ve struggled against it before. Any suggestions?

Also, I’m thinking of changing Protect to U-Turn on Comfey so I can take out Regieleki to set Reflect to reduce Glastrier’s damage. I’m gonna keep Magnet because it’s been useful offensively too. I’ll consider Sash Kartana.

Thanks!
What would U-turn accomplish? The video from the answer is great, it mentions that Metagross is a great counter to Glastrier and I'd like to add that EakesTV got top 16 in the Player's Cup II in North America with a Comfey/Moltres/Metagross Team, so it's worth checking out his team report here- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMLSUcYK30s)

One other good counter to Glastrier that the video didn't mention is beat up + Terrakion, which you can kind of work into your team with Ice Shard Sneasel/Weavile for Moltres but it's mostly just a gimmick.

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Firstly, I can clearly see that this team is built around Moltres + Comfey, alongside other Meta Mons such as Landorus, Fini, Eleki and Kartana. As you mentioned, Glastrier is a huge problem for the team and is one of the most ubiquitous mons out there.

One of the most recent gimmicks/duo that has been hugely successfully for me, personally, and many others is Zapdos + Grimmsnarl. Instead of building around Moltres + Comfey, which it slightly difficult to use as it can easily be revenge killed by Specs Regieleki being the main candidate. Trick room poses as a threat to the team as well, not to mention how there is almost nothing you can do against Glastrier. If you are seriously keen on running Weakness Policy Moltres, I suggest Ninetales-Alola w/ Sash which uses Ice Shard to provoke the weakness policy. The idea should be to protect Moltres turn 1, set up aurora veil with Ninetales, allow Glastrier to use max hailstorm into protected Moltres which activates weakness policy to sweep. However, as aforementioned, it's really hard to counter Dusclops + Glastrier unless Moltres is Life Orb which allows it to K.O 252HP 4sp.def Dusclops, and you have to hope that Glastrier is weakness policy, not Life Orb. Otherwise, you get Garaunteed K.O. However, with some investment in bulk, you can live Glastrier Max Hailstorm but you have to account for LO damage + Hail Damage.

I would really recommend Zapdos + Grimmsnarl here however, but if you genuinely want to stick to Moltres, then I suggest not leading with Moltres against Glastrier + Dusclops. Rotom Heat has always been known as a good counter to Glastrier:

252+ SpA Rotom-Heat Max Flare vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Dynamax Glastrier: 206-246 (49.7 - 59.4%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO

And Nasty Plot set does a solid 93% to Dynamax Glastrier with Overheat as well. If you're struggling against Glastrier, without a doubt, use Rotom which I personally believe is a good counter. Urshifus work too, but they drop your defenses and allows you to be K.Od after hail damage.

Because of the dual typings Rotom-H and Regieleki, I would switch Rotom-H for Regieleki. Screens Eleki seems nice, but all it can really do is set up Reflect against Glastrier, only to be 2HKOd and trick room goes up. You also may want to try carry taunt on Fini as well, alongside Haze to provide optimal support. Calm Mind is nice, but Specs Eleki K.Os it anyways before it sets up, and Calm Mind won't help you against Kartana or Rillaboom anyways. But, if you think Calm Mind has been good for you so far, by all use it. Personally, I don't find it that great.

Instead of Life Orb Landorus, Landorus typically doesn't dynamax. I would recommend Scarf Landorus as it has great unison with Rotom-H (Levitate). This also allows you to run Life Orb Moltres if you wish, which I personally find interesting. Because of the fact that people typically think that Moltres has Weakness Policy, they sometimes tend to shy away from using super effective moves. However, scoring K.O on turn 1 on Dusclops with Life Orb Max Darkness can really surprise them.

And the newest idea I have just thought of is to use Ally switch Rotom, ally switch turn 1 and get off Max Darkness, Rotom lives and simply do as much as possible with Overheat + Max Guard, then max darkness into Glastrier and potentially picking up on K.O due to Sp.def drop.

That's a possibility:
Rotom-H w/ Nasty plot, overheat, thunderbolt, ally switch.
Moltres w/ Life orb.
Kartana w/ AV.
Landorus w/ Scarf.
Fini w/ Taunt + Haze in case Glastrier max quakes too much.
Because of no weakness Policy Moltres, Comfey = not great so I would recommend using Power Herb Nihilego as it is a huge offensive threat and can benefit from Airstream from Moltres, not to mention that it can deal 62-74% (Meteor Beam) to Glastrier. You could also just lead with Nihilego, draw in Max Quake, switch to Rotom-H and get off a free Max Darkness.
so Nihilego w/ Power Herb.

Alternative is to use something similar to this team:
https://pokepast.es/8cbaa4fc716839a2

Where Grimmsnarl can provide speed control with Tricking Full Incense, drop sp.atk with Spirit Break, taunt and fake tears which helps dmax Zapdos:
252+ Atk Life Orb Glastrier Max Hailstorm vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Dynamax Zapdos: 393-463 (118.3 - 139.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
^^Max Guard turn 1, fake tears, then turn 2 switch to landorus, allows Zapdos to tank Max Hailstorm, Zapdos can target 2nd slot, Landorus finishes off with fast Earthquake. Or, you could just lead with Grimmsnarl + Nihilego, switch to Rotom-H turn 1, fake tears, then after a mon faints, late-game Dynamax Zapdos.

If you want to know some more counters to Glastrier, this guy has it all covered in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNWVVE-THPk

Kartana could also serve as an alternative Dynamax option too.

I know I didn't really make myself clear, but if you have any further questions, by all means ask!
Hope I helped!

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Doesn't max darkness drop sp def?
It does, confused it with Max phantasm. Sorry.
Thanks. I’ll try Rotom-H for Glastrier. I’ll consider tails, but Comfey has been very useful so far because of Floral Healing and Taunt for early game TR. I’ll try it anyway. I’m gonna keep WP because after it gets activated it’s a monster. I’m gonna keep Lando as it is. It dynamaxes about 35 per cent of the time, and its useful to have another game plan. I’ll try Taunt + Haze and more supportive on Fini too.
Also, here’s my updated Pokepaste. https://pokepast.es/082a13e23f000178
One thing you could try is safety goggles Rotom-Heat, since otherwise sun seems like a hard matchup.