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Probopass (F) @ Leftovers

Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 104 HP / 104 Def / 60 SAtk / 240 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)

  • Stealth Rock
  • Earth Power
  • Volt Switch
  • Thunder Wave
    Braviary (M) @ Life Orb

    Trait: Defiant
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)

  • Brave Bird

  • Crush Claw
  • Bulk Up
  • Superpower
    Lapras (F) @ Leftovers

    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 HP / 36 Def / 220 SDef
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)

  • Ice Beam

  • Thunderbolt
  • Surf
  • Rest
    Drifblim (M) @ Flying Gem

    Trait: Unburden
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)

  • Acrobatics

  • Will-O-Wisp
  • Pain Split
  • Stockpile
    Golurk @ Life Orb

    Trait: No Guard
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)

  • Earthquake

  • Superpower
  • Shadow Punch
  • Rock Polish
    Muk (M) @ Black Sludge

    Trait: Poison Touch
    EVs: 144 HP / 252 Atk / 112 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)

  • Poison Jab

  • Brick Break
  • Curse
  • Ice Punch
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I personally reccomend rotom S over braviary with choice scarf timid nature  252 SPA 252 speed and 4 defense trick volt switch thunderbolt and air slash. Can hold on to choice scarf to outspeed sawk or trick it onto a wall to stop the walling capabilities. Works really well for me.
Your not abusing Golurk's No Guard at all.
Interesting.... For me?
i new i wasnt going to get best answer since my answer was quite obscure.
Obscure? What do you mean by that?

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Okay, i've been waiting to rate one of your NU teams, so where do I begin. I'm glad to see that you're not using the same old cookie cutter NU team, but I don't know if that's good or bad considering you can't beat JCM. I don't know his team so I'll just give the best options as a whole. (PS. I'll be using little sprites just for you).


  • I'm a huge fan of probopass leads, I don't care what anyone says. Probopass has beast defenses. But the great thing is, is that they're great even without investment, so I'd suggest this move set.

Probopass (F) @ Air Balloon
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 24 HP / 252 SAtk / 232 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Stealth Rock
- Flash Cannon
- Earth Power
- Volt Switch

I actually use Magnet Pull to trap other incoming Probopass, you'll find that not much can OHKO probopass if you switch him into the right moves.


  • Defiant is unreleased. :) And to be honest, I don't really think Braviary is all that beneficial to your team, so I would suggest Dodrio. A huge overlooked threat to this meta game.

>Dodrio (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Early Bird
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Brave Bird
- Return
- Pursuit
- Quick Attack

This Set is like the perfect Sawk counter, w/ scarf it out speeds and doesn't even need to run timid nature, so it's a win win since most sawks run mold breaker now unless they have a spinner. Return and quick attack are stab, pursuit for them ghosts and psychics. Keep in mind Fearow could also work here too.


  • I'm guessing she's here only for water absorb? Well.. your team isn't weak to water.. so I'd recommend Reg ice, who has MONSTER SP. DEF and doesn't need Sp. Def so you can use those EVs in SAtk.

>Regice @ Chesto Berry
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunder Wave
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Rest

Resto-Chesto + Bolt-Beam combination. What could possible go wrong?! T-wave us there because obviously Regice isn't the fastest pokemon. Also has good synergy with Golurk because it can take the grass / water types.


  • I like Drifblim and all, but two ghost types on a NU team is. TERRIBLE idea, since stuntank is in almost every team, and if not stuntank then you have absol to deal with. So I'd suggest Flareon.

>Flareon @ Leftovers
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Wish
- Protect
- Heal Bell
- Flame Charge

Predict a fire type attack, aimed at Regice, and you're good to go! It's a wish passing set w/ heal bell because your team isn't to crazy about status moves, and it has decent attack, so with the Stab + Flash Fire boost, you'll be hitting hard. + you get a speed boost which is always nice. :)


  • This poke on hits like a truck, and since it now has gotten No Guard ability it makes it THAT much better. Your problem is, is that you're running no guard, and it doesn't have any moves that benefit from it. Use these moves:

>Dynamic Punch, Stone Edge, Earthquake, Shadow Punch


  • I'd rather you use this as a physical wall, than whatever you're using him as.

>EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Shadow Sneak / Ice Punch
- Brick Break
- Poison Jab / Fling

So you know those Rotom-F who like to trick choice scarfs on people who set up.. well one they'd be getting black sludge, and two, you could just fling it away.

I know it may seem I've made a lot of changes to your team, but I believe you can now beat JCM with these improvement. :7

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One problem: JCM doesn't allow legends :(
Heh, at least i know what you're using ^.^
Lapras is epic. It can safeswitch into Dodrio and not get KO'd by it's STAB Brave Bird and KO it with Ice Beam.
Actually, according to this, he does allow legends. :) - http://pokemondb.net/pokebase/meta/15109/request-for-the-second-gym.  & DF that's why I told you to hide so he would see it. :P
No, i don't. Jonachin was not accepted as a Gym Leader and those were not my rules xD
No no no. This was just a practice team xD
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first things first i have trained with jcm and battled his gym team so i will not just be making a new team that will beat it i will work on fixing this team up and only switch pokemon unless it is severley needed.

first of all what does your team have against rotom S? golurk but i have beaten them with him by using air slash which hit for in my expierence 40% health. i think a better lead would be Regirock since he hits incredibly hard

Regirock @ Leftovers
Trait:clear body
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 attck
Careful Nature
- stone edge
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- thunder wave

hits super hard with stone edge and gets rid of the flying type weakness. on the team.hits hard with equake and can paralyze to help golurk set up and stop oppsing set up sweepers. You still have stealth rock and does everything that probopass can do.If intent on keeping probpass a set is listed below.

Probopass (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Magnet Pull/sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Power Gem
- Stealth Rock
- Earth Power
- Volt Switch
this set works wonders for me. he takes surf and other attacks well and if you see a physical attack like Equake or sawk comes in just switch out. i find that the special edge-quake combo works pretty well. i like this set because he can get at least one nice hit off when needed.

i reccmend Rotom S over braviary since i started with him on my team and this works better.You also have a bulk of physical attackers so I would recommend him as your special attacker.
Rotom-S @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Air Slash
- Trick

stops set up sweepers like gorebyss and can hit hard and fast in most cases if you decide to keep the scarf. Can out speed sawk and hit hard with air slash against him.
if you decide to keep braviaruy you will have a sawk counter in golurk since those nasty fighting type attacks cant hit him.

lapras looks good but you could try to put heal bell over thunder bolt to heal the team since burn could hurt you on braviary and and golurk.

why not just make drifblim a full wall and put a ghost gem and hex on him? gets the boost and has a super powered ghost move when they are burned. The problem i see right now with drifblim is stealth rock damage. He is gonna come in weakend and your opponent has a shot to hit him with like stone edge or somethink if you plan on coming in on fighting types and bott him to the corner.

next thing umm you no that incredibly powerful attack dynamic punch? golurk has it! use that to your advantage. Guarnteed hit thanks to no guard and it confuses them! amasing attack over superpower.

muk set looks good.
I am not the best team maker because my teams are constantly being worked on when I try to figure out who doesnt work and who does. So just keep testing the team and see what works.Good luck with the team.

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Your team definately had a problem with Absol. While Muk can do well against it, just the one is not something I would completely rely on. Which is why I'm going to suggest replacing your Lapras with a Gurdurr.

Gurdurr (F) @ Eviolite
Trait: Guts
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bulk Up
- Drain Punch
- Mach Punch
- Payback

Now for Probopass, a 248 HP / 8 Special Attack / 252 Def works much better in my experience. The moveset you have now is good though.

I saw you had a Dodrio. I prefer for my Normal/Flying Scarfed Physical attackers a Fearow or Braviary due to their coverage attack (Drill Run/Superpower). Consider those to the Dodrio I saw on your team.

Flareon is good.

I hope you added Dynamicpunch to that Golurk...

And the Muk set Riles posted is good, and to make your life a bit easier, Shadow Sneak and Poison Jab are the moves you should choose, although I prefer Gunk Shot to Poison Jab.

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I know his team, uh huh xP