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I want a list of all moves Smogon deems competitively viable. I don't want moves that become more viable only with the help of an Item/Ability that would otherwise be unused (Like Technician+Bug Bite is Viable). I will mostly use this list for theoryMon-ing and similar applications. I am only asking because I searched for a source that listed all of them and couldn't find one. If you could give a link to a site that does list them, that'd be appreciated as well. :P

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Are these the moves that appear at the top of the list when you're choosing a moveset?
Most of the time, yes. :P
What do you mean by "Smogon deems competitively viable"? Is there a certain place(s) on Smogon that have viable moves? What format?
I mean, excluding all of the moves that are almost never considered good and including the moves that almost always outclass others (Example: Brutal Swing is outclassed by Night Slash, but Knock Off doesn't outclass Pursuit, Sucker Punch, or Foul Play because they serve different purposes). :P
People in CAP project refer to moves that aren't viable sometimes, most prominently when creating CAP Pokémons' movepools, but they don't specify every move that is/isn't viable. :P
In general, the moves that seem to work well or can work well if a Pokémon has access to it are the ones I am looking for (if a move is viable but only if it gets STAB, include it), so I don't think it is tier dependent, but I want a 6v6 Singles dependent answer. :P
How rare is "almost never"? And what if a move is often used despite being outclassed, like how some Pokemon use calm mind despite being outclassed by nasty plot?
All right sUmwUn, how about this: Remove every move that doesn't appear on the "usually useless moves" list on the Showdown! singles tiers (as well as AG), but also don't appear on any other Pokémon in said formats' useful moves list. That is what I consider competitive moves for 6v6 singles. :P
Is this good enough, or do I need to find a way to be any more specific? :P

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ELECTRIC

Accelerock
ROCK

Acid Downpour
POISON

Acid Spray
POISON

Acrobatics
FLYING

Aeroblast
FLYING

Agility
PSYCHIC

Air Slash
FLYING

All-Out Pummeling
FIGHTING

Anchor Shot
STEEL

Aqua Jet
WATER

Aqua Tail
WATER

Aromatherapy
GRASS

Attack Order
BUG

Aura Sphere
FIGHTING

Aurora Veil
ICE

Autotomize
STEEL

Avalanche
ICE

Baddy Bad
DARK

Baneful Bunker
POISON

Baton Pass
NORMAL

Beak Blast
FLYING

Black Hole Eclipse
DARK

Blaze Kick
FIRE

Bloom Doom
GRASS

Blue Flare
FIRE

Body Slam
NORMAL

Bolt Strike
ELECTRIC

Bonemerang
GROUND

Boomburst
NORMAL

Bouncy Bubble
WATER

Brave Bird
FLYING

Breakneck Blitz
NORMAL

Brick Break
FIGHTING

Bug Buzz
BUG

Bulk Up
FIGHTING

Bullet Punch
STEEL

Bullet Seed
GRASS

Buzzy Buzz
ELECTRIC

Calm Mind
PSYCHIC

Catastropika
ELECTRIC

Chatter
FLYING

Circle Throw
FIGHTING

Clanging Scales
DRAGON

Clangorous Soulblaze
DRAGON

Clear Smog
POISON

Close Combat
FIGHTING

Coil
POISON

Continental Crush
ROCK

Core Enforcer
DRAGON

Corkscrew Crash
STEEL

PSYCHIC

Cotton Guard
GRASS

Crabhammer
WATER

Cross Chop
FIGHTING

Crunch
DARK

Dark Pulse
DARK

Dark Void
DARK

Darkest Lariat
DARK

Dazzling Gleam
FAIRY

Defend Order
BUG

Defog
FLYING

Destiny Bond
GHOST

Detect
FIGHTING

Devastating Drake
DRAGON

Diamond Storm
ROCK

Disable
NORMAL

Discharge
ELECTRIC

Double Iron Bash
STEEL

Double-Edge
NORMAL

Draco Meteor
DRAGON

Dragon Ascent
FLYING

Dragon Claw
DRAGON

Dragon Dance
DRAGON

Dragon Hammer
DRAGON

Dragon Pulse
DRAGON

Dragon Rush
DRAGON

Dragon Tail
DRAGON

Drain Punch
FIGHTING

Drill Peck
FLYING

Drill Run
GROUND

Earth Power
GROUND

Earthquake
GROUND

Encore
NORMAL

Endeavor
NORMAL

Energy Ball
GRASS

Eruption
FIRE

Explosion
NORMAL

Extrasensory
PSYCHIC

Extreme Evoboost
NORMAL

Extreme Speed
NORMAL

Facade
NORMAL

Fake Out
NORMAL

Fiery Dance
FIRE

Final Gambit
FIGHTING

Fire Blast
FIRE

Fire Fang
FIRE
Fire Lash
FIRE

Fire Punch
FIRE

First Impression
BUG

Flame Charge
FIRE

Flamethrower
FIRE

Flare Blitz
FIRE

Flash Cannon
STEEL

Fleur Cannon
FAIRY

Floaty Fall
FLYING

Flower Shield
FAIRY

Flying Press
FIGHTING
Note: On hackmons Showdown doesn't like this, but???

Focus Blast
FIGHTING

Focus Punch
FIGHTING

Foul Play
DARK

Freeze-Dry
ICE

Freezy Frost
ICE

Frustration
NORMAL

Fusion Bolt
ELECTRIC

Fusion Flare
FIRE

Gear Grind
STEEL

Genesis Supernova
PSYCHIC

Geomancy
FAIRY
:<<<<

Giga Drain
GRASS

Gigavolt Havoc
ELECTRIC

Glare
NORMAL

Glitzy Glow
PSYCHIC

Grass Knot
GRASS

Guardian of Alola
FAIRY

Gunk Shot
POISON

Hammer Arm
FIGHTING

Haze
ICE

Head Charge
NORMAL

Head Smash
ROCK

Heal Bell
NORMAL

Heal Order
BUG

Healing Wish
PSYCHIC

Heat Wave
FIRE

Heavy Slam
STEEL

Hex
GHOST

High Jump Kick
FIGHTING

Hone Claws
DARK

Horn Leech
GRASS

Hurricane
FLYING

Hydro Pump
WATER

Hydro Vortex
WATER

Hyper Voice
NORMAL

Hyperspace Fury
DARK

Ice Beam
ICE

Ice Fang
ICE

Ice Hammer
ICE

Ice Punch
ICE

Ice Shard
ICE

Icicle Crash
ICE

Icicle Spear
ICE

Inferno Overdrive
FIRE

Iron Head
STEEL

Judgment
NORMAL

King's Shield
STEEL

Knock Off
DARK

Lava Plume
FIRE

Leaf Blade
GRASS

Leaf Storm
GRASS

Leaf Tornado
GRASS

Leech Life
BUG

Leech Seed
GRASS

Let's Snuggle Forever
FAIRY

Light of Ruin
FAIRY

Light Screen
PSYCHIC

Light That Burns the Sky
PSYCHIC

Liquidation
WATER

Lovely Kiss
NORMAL

Low Kick
FIGHTING

Lunar Dance
PSYCHIC

Lunge
BUG

Mach Punch
FIGHTING

Magic Coat
PSYCHIC

Magma Storm
FIRE

Malicious Moonsault
DARK
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Megahorn
BUG

Memento
DARK

Menacing Moonraze Maelstrom
GHOST

Metal Burst
STEEL

Meteor Mash
STEEL

Milk Drink
NORMAL

Mind Blown
FIRE

Moonblast
FAIRY

Moongeist Beam
GHOST

Moonlight
FAIRY

Morning Sun
NORMAL

Multi-Attack
NORMAL

Nasty Plot
DARK

Never-Ending Nightmare
GHOST

Night Shade
GHOST

Night Slash
DARK

Nuzzle
ELECTRIC

Oblivion Wing
FLYING

Oceanic Operetta
WATER

Origin Pulse
WATER

Outrage
DRAGON

Overheat
FIRE

Pain Split
NORMAL

Parting Shot
DARK

Perish Song
NORMAL

Petal Blizzard
GRASS

Photon Geyser
PSYCHIC

Pika Papow
ELECTRIC

Plasma Fists
ELECTRIC

Play Rough
FAIRY

Poison Jab
POISON

Poison Powder
POISON

Power Gem
ROCK

Power Whip
GRASS

Power-Up Punch
FIGHTING

Precipice Blades
GROUND

Protect
NORMAL

Psychic
PSYCHIC

Psychic Fangs
PSYCHIC

Psycho Boost
PSYCHIC

Psycho Cut
PSYCHIC

Psyshock
PSYCHIC

Psystrike
PSYCHIC

Pulverizing Pancake
NORMAL

Pursuit
DARK

Quick Attack
NORMAL

Quiver Dance
BUG

Rapid Spin
NORMAL

Razor Shell
WATER

Recover
NORMAL

Reflect
PSYCHIC

Refresh
NORMAL

Relic Song
NORMAL

Rest
PSYCHIC

Return
NORMAL

Revelation Dance
NORMAL

Roar
NORMAL

Rock Blast
ROCK

Rock Polish
ROCK

Rock Slide
ROCK

Roost
FLYING

Sacred Fire
FIRE

Sacred Sword
FIGHTING

Sappy Seed
GRASS

Savage Spin-Out
BUG

Scald
WATER

Searing Shot
FIRE

Searing Sunraze Smash
STEEL

Secret Sword
FIGHTING

Seed Bomb
GRASS

Seed Flare
GRASS

Seismic Toss
FIGHTING

Shadow Ball
GHOST

Shadow Bone
GHOST

Shadow Claw
GHOST

Shadow Force
GHOST

Shadow Punch
GHOST

Shadow Sneak
GHOST

Shattered Psyche
PSYCHIC

Shell Smash
NORMAL

Shift Gear
STEEL

Shore Up
GROUND

Signal Beam
BUG

Sinister Arrow Raid
GHOST

Sizzly Slide
FIRE

Slack Off
NORMAL

Sleep Powder
GRASS

Sleep Talk
NORMAL

Sludge Bomb
POISON

Sludge Wave
POISON

Soft-Boiled
NORMAL

Soul-Stealing 7-Star Strike
GHOST

Spacial Rend
DRAGON

Sparkling Aria
WATER

Sparkly Swirl
FAIRY

Spectral Thief
GHOST

Spikes
GROUND

Spiky Shield
GRASS

Spirit Shackle
GHOST

Splintered Stormshards
ROCK

Splishy Splash
WATER

Spore
GRASS

Stealth Rock
ROCK

Steam Eruption
WATER

Sticky Web
BUG

Stoked Sparksurfer
ELECTRIC

Stone Edge
ROCK

Storm Throw
FIGHTING

Strength Sap
GRASS

Substitute
NORMAL

Subzero Slammer
ICE

Sucker Punch
DARK

Sunsteel Strike
STEEL

Super Fang
NORMAL

Superpower
FIGHTING

Supersonic Skystrike
FLYING

Surf
WATER

Switcheroo
DARK

Swords Dance
NORMAL

Synthesis
GRASS

Tail Glow
BUG

Tail Slap
NORMAL

Tailwind
FLYING

Taunt
DARK

Techno Blast
NORMAL

Tectonic Rage
GROUND

Thousand Arrows
GROUND

Thunder Punch
ELECTRIC

Thunderbolt
ELECTRIC

Thunder Wave ELECTRIC

Toxic
POISON

Toxic Spikes
POISON

Toxic Thread
POISON

Tri Attack
NORMAL

Trick
PSYCHIC

Twinkle Tackle
FAIRY

U-turn
BUG

V-create
FIRE

Veevee Volley
NORMAL

Volt Switch
ELECTRIC

Volt Tackle
ELECTRIC

Water Shuriken
WATER

Water Spout
WATER

Waterfall
WATER

Whirlwind
NORMAL

Wild Charge
ELECTRIC

Will-O-Wisp
FIRE

Wing Attack
FLYING

Wish
NORMAL

Wood Hammer
GRASS

X-Scissor
BUG

Zen Headbutt
PSYCHIC

Zing Zap
ELECTRIC

Zippy Zap
ELECTRIC

I realized that Hackmons existed too late....
This totally didn't took a major part of my day nor my sanity.
Tw'ts ewll
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What sanity?
Also the top part isn't exactly right. "isViable" is a label that Showdown! puts on moves regardless of what Pokemon is using them. So Showdown! always thinks sandstorm is "usually useless" even if you're teaching it to a rock type.
Oh sorry
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That's kind of a broad question. However, In Pokemon Showdown if you look up a Pokemon and start to build its moveset, it splits all "viable" and "unviable" moves into their respective categories. But just because a move is considered "unviable" doesn't mean it useless. This game, after all, is about creating out of the box ways to become successful in the game, you don't necessarily need to use viable Pokemon or moves to be competitively viable.

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I know, I use moves that are considered unviable sometimes (like Snatch). I just want a shortened movelist so that I can remember which moves are generally good to put on any given Pokémon. Mostly for a lot of theorymoning. :P
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