Umbreon - Dark Pulse or Faint Attack?

Question

Since Umbreon's attack stat is slightly higher than it's Sp.Atk, would Faint Attack be better than Dark Pulse?

Answer 1

Actually, Payback would be better than all of those. I'll take it piece-by-piece.

Faint Attack: Power of 60 (90 after STAB), Physical Dark type move, and never misses.

Dark Pulse: Power of 80 (120 after STAB), Special Dark type move, and accuracy of 100.

Payback: Power of 50 (100 after STAB, and most likely 150 power since Umbreon's Speed is really low), Physical Dark type move, and accuracy of 100.

Overview: Faint Attack never misses, but has a maximum power of 90. Dark Pulse can flinch the opponent, and almost never misses, and has a maximum power of 120, but is Special. Payback has a maximum power of 150, and you'll probably be getting that with it's low Speed, and almost never misses. I'd go with Payback.

I hope this helps!

Comments

You made a mistake, Payback is 100 BP because of the move's effect, and then it's 150 because of STAB.

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Does the order matter?

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No, but it is confusing because STAB is 1.5x so it would be 75 not 100 then double because of the effect.

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Shouldn't the STAB only bring payback to 75, considering it starts with a BP of 50?

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Payback has double power when the user goes after its target. So if the user goes after its target, payback has 100 base power (150 with STAB boost)