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SupaCarnie (Conkeldurr) (M) @ Flame Orb
Trait: Guts
EVs: 224 HP / 252 Atk / 34 SDef
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Mach Punch
- Drain Punch
- Facade
- Payback

This is my Conkeldurr. As you can see, he knows Mach Punch and Drain Punch. I want to give him Bulk Up, but i' don't know which to take off.

I want to keep Facade because with Flame Orb and Guts, it is powerful. Payback is for Psychic Types.

So it is down to Mach/ Drain Punch. I can either give up priority, which i have found extremely useful, or i give up the ability to get the HP/damage lost to burn back.

Which should i take?? Help!!

hmm good question
My best opinion would be Mach puch to cover his Low speed
AGGHHH NO DONT GIVE IT FLAME ORB!!!  That makes its attack go down a lot, give it toxic orb instead if you want a move to power up facade
First, Guts makes it's attack go up 50%, not down. That is pretty basic knowledge. Second, Toxic Orb lowers it's longevity to about 8 turns.
No,toxic is better `cos burn halves attack

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Despite your Conkledurr's nature, I think Drain Punch would be more effective. With his high attack you would be getting max HP along with dealing out heavy damage. Even though you lose the speed factor with Mach Punch, and though Conkledurr has bad speed, it doesn't do nearly as much damage. Bulk Up on the other hand would be powering up that even more.

Hope this helps =)

darn you answered before me :( im too slow at typing
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I would say: Drain Punch. It has more power AND it gives you HP. and if your lucky, you may have more speed so you can go first.

Hope This Helps :D

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i say neither you should forget payback or facade. Also you should use some carbos to up its speed. hope it helps =] :]

But the coverage is horrible. Plus, Bulk Up will boost your Move Power anyway, making Facade a worse choice then a boosted Priority Move or Recovery Move.
Then what would you suggest for a moveset??
Easy, Replace Facade with Bulk Up and keep the Rest.
ok. i will try that. thanks PB10 and sorry mario23467 for coming off as harsh
No Problem, hopefully it works out.