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So, I saw a [Gen 2] OU Team replay, so I wanted to get into it. After researching the Gen 1 Format, and finding out what is good in [Gen 1] OU, I came up with a team, tried it out, and tweaked it. However, it still only has varying success, and I can’t find out why it isn’t the best. So, I need a second opinion. Here for Poképast Link.


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Snorlax
Role: Bulky Physical Sweeper
Snorlax
Ability: None

  • Body Slam
  • Rest
  • Substitute
  • Earthquake

Snorlax is great in general, especially in [Gen 1] OU. It has Body Slam as STAB, Earthquake as coverage, Substitute to stall hits, and Rest to heal. It can tank hits extremely well, and takes 2-3 Pokémon to bring down.

Notes: Should I replace Earthquake with Toxic? It would give more of a use to Substitute and Rest.


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Alakazam
Role: Fast Special Sweeper
Alakazam
Ability: None

  • Psychic
  • Recover
  • Reflect
  • Thunder Wave

Alakazam is great on this team, with technically no weaknesses. Psychic is for STAB and Coverage. Recover is for Recovery, and Reflect and Thunder Wave for status Coverage. It is not Physically defensive, but can sweep pretty well before getting knocked out.


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Zapdos
Role: Fast Sweeper
Zapdos
Ability: None

  • Reflect
  • Light Screen
  • Thunder
  • Thunder Wave

Thunder is for STAB, Reflect/Light Screen is to deflect Physical/Special attacks. Thunder is for STAB. Thunder Wave is to slow down opponents. It is fast, and can deal damage well and reflect it with Reflect/Light Screen. It isn’t the most defensive, but there isn’t much I can do about that.

Notes: Is Thunder Wave wasting a slot on this? It is already faster then most opponents, so that might be wasting a slot. Is Thunder bad as it’s only damaging move? Maybe Thunderbolt is better, and then replace Thunder Wave with another damaging move.


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Lapras
Role: Specially Defensive Sweeper
Lapras
Ability: None

  • Hydro Pump
  • Blizzard
  • Psychic
  • Thunder

Hydro Pump and Blizzard are for STAB. Psychic and Thunder are for coverage. It is very defensive, and in Gen 1 it is equally offensive. However, I can be beaten with 1-2 super effective moves.

Notes: I am considering other Water Types like Slowbro, and Cloyster. Are they better then Lapras? Status moves might be better then Thunder and Psychic. And example is Substitute.


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Chansey
Role: Specially Defensive
Chansey
Ability: None

  • Toxic
  • Blizzard
  • Soft-Boiled
  • Substitute

What is a [Gen 1] OU team without a Chansey? Blizzard is for Coverage, Soft-Boiled is for Recovery, and Toxic and Substitute are for Toxic-Stalling. It is very Specially Defensive, and can survive some hits, unless those hits are Physical Fighting Type attacks.

Notes: I put Blizzard on the set, but should I use Thunder or Fire Blast instead? I think Fire Blast might be good for the burn chance, so I could stand up to Physical attacks.


And for the final team member, I don’t know what Pokémon should fill this spot. I am thinking Dragonite, but he isn’t in OU, and doesn’t seem appealing. Maybe Exegutor? I am not sure.


Summary: I have had success with this team, but I can be beaten fairly often. So, any help?

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Toxic is not a good move in Gen 1 OU. Whenever a Pokemon switches, Toxic reverts to regular, weak poison. There is no way to get around that, since Spikes or Stealth Rocks dont exist yet. For your last team slot, I would highly suggest Tauros, the best Pokemon in Gen 1 OU. Exeggutor is the 2nd best mon since it has access to Explosion, Sleep Powder, and STAB Psychic, but Alakazam is fine.
Dragonite is gimmicky, with wrap's inconsistentcy. Tarous and exeggutor are musts on almost every gen 1 ou team. Also, im not that good at gen 1 ou, but I dont think lax is an amazing lead overall. Other common leads like jynx and gengar are ones you should consider using there
Snorlax doesn't get Curse until Gen 2.

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Snorlax

Toxic is not a good move in Gen 1 OU. Whenever a Pokemon switches, Toxic reverts to regular, weak poison. There is no way to get around that, since Spikes or Stealth Rocks dont exist yet.

Toxic is therefore, not a viable option. Substitute does not really fit well on your set. It doesn't have many uses in Gen 1. Focus Punch does not exist yet, Snorlax has no boosting moves in Gen 1 that fit on your current set, Toxic is bad, Will-O-Wisp does not exist yet, Thunder Wave doesn't have much of an impact on Snorlax's performance since it's already super slow, and all of those problems + Fire Blast burns can be fixed with Rest. In the last slot, you can use Reflect to improve Snorlax's physical bulk or Self-Destruct to KO/do major damage to anything in the way (fun fact?: I'm pretty Snorlax's Self Destruct is the strongest move in Gen 1). If you are interested, there's also a mixed Amnesia set you can use (1 Amnesia is equivalent to 2 Calm Minds because of Gen 1's Special stat.) Snorlax also is not a good lead and should be saved for mid/late-game.

Snorlax
Snorlax

  • Body Slam
  • Amnesia
  • Blizzard / Ice Beam
  • Rest / Fire Blast

Your other moveset should look something like this

Snorlax

  • Body Slam
  • Rest
  • Self-Destruct
  • Earthquake

Alakazam

The set is good. However you should probably use Exeggutor. Like I said in a comment, Exeggutor is the 2nd best Pokemon in Gen 1 OU, all because of STAB Psychic, a favorable matchup against Rhydon and Golem who are obstacles in the way of Tauros, Zapdos, and Snorlax due to its colossal Special stat dwarfing the rocks' pitiful 45 and 55, access to the 4x effective Mega Drain, and the deadly combination of Sleep Powder + Explosion. Exeggutor is one of the, if not the, best leads in Gen 1 OU. Starmie and Jynx are also great, but there's a reason why Exeggutor is considered by almost all RBY players to be #2.

Exeggutor
Exeggutor

  • Sleep Powder
  • Explosion
  • Mega Drain
  • Psychic

Zapdos

Zapdos doesn't really need dual screens. Thunder < Thunderbolt, for its consistency (Thunder has 70% accuracy in Gen 1, not 90 like Blizzard does). In Gen 2, Thunder is usually better, but that's because Gen 2's metagame is focused so much on stall and Zap needs Thunder's power to get rid of some obstacles like Snorlax. Gen 1 on the other hand is a very offensive metagame. Thunderbolt is thus preferred. Drill Peck is also a mandatory option as it allows Zapdos to hit Chansey and Exeggutor, something which Thunderbolt does not do. Agility can be used in the last slot alongside Thunder Wave. It may seem weird, but it improves Zapdos's critical hit rate (in Gen 1, crits are based on Speed) and it allows Zapdos to outspeed every single Pokemon in the long term, while Thunder Wave makes Zapdos temporarily faster against paralyzed threats than with Agility.

Final moveset:
Zapdos
Zapdos

  • Thunderbolt
  • Drill Peck
  • Thunder Wave
  • Agility

Lapras

This set needs a little improvement. Psychic only worsens Lapras's matchup against Starmie and Amnesia Slowbro, as well as Chansey. Thunder is once again worse than Thunderbolt. Psychic should be replaced by Sing or Confuse Ray for a better matchup against Water-Psychic types and Chansey. I've noticed your team lacks a Normal resist as well as a strong Zapdos switch in. You usually need one if you don't want to get bulldozed by the big four of RBY OU. Rhydon is usually better than Golem. Rhydon and its massive Attack stat and STAB Earthquake makes it great with paralysis, which is kindly supplied by Zapdos. Its base 105 HP stat means it can create 101 HP Substitutes to foil most Chansey lacking Ice Beam, giving it a generally favorable matchup against it.

Final Lapras set:
Lapras
Lapras

  • Blizzard
  • Thunderbolt
  • Hydro Pump / Sing / Confuse Ray
  • Confuse Ray / Sing

Rhydon
Rhydon

  • Earthquake
  • Rock Slide
  • Body Slam
  • Substitute / Seismic Toss / Submission

Chansey

As I mentioned before, Toxic is not good on Chansey, and in general in RBY. Substitute doesn't really fit well on your set. Ice Beam > Blizzard because Ice Beam's higher PP and better accuracy can mean all the difference in an elongated battle. Chansey has several options it can explore. Reflect to have a better matchup against Snorlax, Tauros, and Exeggutor, Thunder Wave to cripple, Sing to put something to sleep and essentially remove it from action for the entire game thanks to RBY's brutal Sleep mechanics, Seismic Toss for its damage, Thunderbolt on offensive sets for its synergy with Ice Beam, even Counter for Tauros and Snorlax.

Standard Bulky set
Chansey
Chansey

  • Reflect
  • Thunder Wave
  • Soft-Boiled
  • Seismic Toss

BoltBeam

Chansey

  • Ice Beam
  • Thunderbolt
  • Soft-Boiled
  • Thunder Wave

Triple KO Chansey

  • Ice Beam
  • Sing
  • Counter
  • Soft-Boiled

Final slot

You should absolutely go Tauros here. Tauros is the best Pokemon in RBY OU. Great Attack stat, high speed, an incredible critical hit rate thanks to that Speed stat, STAB Normal moves in Body Slam and Hyper Beam, decent Special stat, decent bulk, effectively no weaknesses due to how bad Fighting types are. Be sure to use Tauros as a late-game sweeper to clean up the weakened opposition and spam Hyper Beam once everything has been significantly chipped.

Tauros
Tauros

  • Body Slam
  • Hyper Beam
  • Blizzard
  • Fire Blast / Earthquake
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Dragonite

  • Wrap
  • Agility
  • Blizzard
  • Hyper Beam

Wrap- Doesn't let opponents attack while dragonite does damage
Agility- Boosts Dragonite's speed so it can outspeed fast threats like Alakazam/Mewtwo
Blizzard- Handles opposing Dragonite's that you battle
Hyper Beam- The last resort for low hp opponents

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