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DP era uwu



Oh btw wanna make a gimmick team I just learned about Z-Grudge and i wanna test it out plus you are great at gimmick sets lol
Oct 10, 2020 by y-chai
I would highly recommend staying away from that article, you may get downvoted for it being so outdated.
Oct 10, 2020 by y-chai
Oh, well, you see, I have 3 tabs open while making EV spreads: the damage calculator, list of Pokemon in the format, and obviously the teambuilder. Since the calc lets you have unlimited EVs I first play around with how many EVs are needed to survive a certain attack and OHKO/2HKO with my own attack. Then I write them into the teambuilder, and, usually, the EVs will fair well against most threats in the tier (for example, in a tier full of fairies, Special Defense investment is preferred over Defense). Then I just think, "If I have to invest fully in HP and Special Defense on this Pokemon to survive that Pokemon's attack and I can't OHKO or outspeed, then it's not worth it." in that case I will reset the EVs.


So that's my process lol and I use standard pre-made smogon sets for the opposing Pokemon (like for Clefable I will always use the Wish + Teleport physically defensive set).
Oct 10, 2020 by y-chai
Ouch, lol. Poor internet.
Oct 10, 2020 by Amethyst
Dang, that's quite a bit. I'm sorry. Good luck getting it back!
Oct 10, 2020 by Amethyst
Oof, I'm sorry. By how much?
Oct 10, 2020 by Amethyst
Sorry I didn't respond -- looks like Y fixed that :)
Oct 10, 2020 by Amethyst
Nope, I just play OU this gen. But I do know some bits and pieces from reading, and I used some of these Pokemon in past gen formats. So I might be able to help... but take this with a massive grain of salt.
* I'm not sure Flygon is frail enough to warrant Focus Sash. I'd go with Life Orb since Flygon looks like your main plan for late-game.
* I see why you want Defog/Magic Bounce on this team, but less so with Tailwind. I would use Roost on Xatu instead. (Though I had a flick through some stats, and it seems Xatu is used mainly for Trick Room. A different defogger might be better.)
* Bisharp is a rare case where the consensus is Black Glasses is better than Life Orb, since Bisharp has some defensive merit and it's already quite powerful. Though if you've run some numbers and found Life Orb hits some important benchmarks, you should keep it.
* Offence teams generally need speed control and a reliable way to set hazards. I'd look into Terrakion or Krookodile as an offensive SR user, and something like Noivern or a Scarf user for speed. Sucker Punch might be enough though.
* I don't know enough about UU to tell if the selection of breakers + sweepers synergise. The sets otherwise look pretty standard.

Re RMT votes: The best teams (and high-effort posts) get votes there. Ultimately it's subject to what different people want to vote.

Re building around a Pokemon: I recommend building teams around a win condition or offensive core, e.g. a certain sweeper or combination of wallbreakers. Building around defensive Pokemon feels 'back to front' to me, since they don't really govern how you play the team. From there, just pick Pokemon that synergise offensively (e.g. take out enemy walls for each other) and defensively (e.g. offer switch-ins for common counters). Reading stats and guides on Smogon can help you know what you need to cover, and how you might go about it. Prioritise offensive synergy on offence teams, defensive synergy on stall, both on balance, etc.
Oct 10, 2020 by Fizz
Do you think i should?
Oct 10, 2020 by y-chai
Omg I cant im so afraid that ill get a lot of backlash if i answer that
Oct 10, 2020 by y-chai