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Just wanted to know who is better in terms of competitive battling.Please provide pros and cons of each as well as good movesets.


Char X overall is better than gyara imp. But just by a little. I rly can't say tho since they're so similiar
Char X can't be burnt, Gyara has Intimidate to aid set up. Both function really well as a D-Dance sweeper. But imo Char X cuz it doesn't have as many weaknesses as Gyara gains after mega evo, and overall a more sweeper outlook with Tough Claws.

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Let's compare the two, shall we?! :D


Mega Charizard X:

Fire Beard @ Charizardite X
Ability: Tough Claws
Nature: Adamant
EV's: 144 HP / 252 Atk / 112 Spe

  • Dragon Rush
  • Earthquake
  • Flare Blitz
  • Roost

Dragon Rush is the main STAB and deals decent damage without locking you into a multi-turn attack with the chance of being easily killed by a Fairy-type (cough cough Outrage cough cough). Flare Blitz is an amazing attack (imo), although the recoil can quickly stack up, so Roost is there to help make Charizard last longer. Earthquake is for coverage (and who doesn't love 100 power with 100 accuracy?).

Mega Gyarados:

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Giant Shrimp @ Gyaradosite
Ability: Mold Breaker
Nature: Jolly / Adamant (want more Speed or Attack?)
EV's: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 Def

  • Waterfall
  • Earthquake
  • Ice Fang
  • Stone Edge / Dragon Dance

Waterfall leads the set, being also the primary STAB with mediocre flinch-chance. Ice Fang is for the obnoxious Grass and Dragon-types (Breloom and Garchomp, to name a few). Again, Earthquake provides good coverage. If you want even more coverage, go with Stone Edge. But a quick Dragon Dance can turn Mega Gyarados pretty deadly. However, there is no recovery, but Gyarados is bulky enough to endure some hits.


Mega Charizard X:

  • HP : 78
  • Atk: 130
  • Def: 111
  • SpA: 130
  • Def: 85
  • Spe: 100
  • Total: 634

Mega Gyarados:

  • HP : 95
  • Atk: 155
  • Def: 109
  • SpA: 70
  • Def: 130
  • Spe: 81
  • Total: 640

While both Megas are destined for Sweeping, Mega Gyarados comes out slightly superior in attack, beating Mega Charizard X by 25. Mega Gyarados also has higher special defense and HP, making it a tad more bulky than Charizard. However, Mega Charizard X is better in terms of defense (but only by a measly amount of 2), speed, and special attack (which means you could also run a Heat Wave/Dragon Pulse set).

Synergy & Conclusion

Both Mega's are vulnerable to Fairy-types, so be sure to have backup such as Aegislash, Gengar, and Dragalge to murder any threats. Bullet Punch Scizor is also an option, although Mega Scizor wouldn't be viable.

Being Burnt is a major problem that frequently happen to most Physical Sweepers. Charizard X is better in such a situation because it has burn-immunity.

In the end, it's best for you to experiment with different options yourself and come up with the best member for your team, since the two are very similar.

O.o no d dance? and i think dragon claw is better than rush but the thanks anyways!
Both can run DDance, so if u want Charizard to have it as well, go ahead.
Also, the 75% Acc of Dragon Rush never proved to be a problem to me, but switch it to Claw if you're worried :D
Crunch could also be used on MGyara for dual STAB and Ghost/Psychic coverage
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both of them are psychical sweepers but with the type differences they fit better in other type of teams. those are the moveset that you always see

charizard x
ability tough claws: this Pokemon contact moves has 1.33 more power
nature: adamant
ev's: 252 attack 252 speed 4 hp
moves: dragon dance flare blitz dragon claw roost

M gyarados:
ability mold breaker: this Pokemon moves ignores effects and abilities from other Pokemon
nature Jolly
ev's: 252 attack 252 speed 4 hp
moves: dragon dance crunch waterfall earthquacke

gyarados jolly nature is for the speed boost what it really needs

gyarados job is taking out those stupid rotom wash and sturdy Pokemon with earthquacke because mold breaker ignores ability's and with waterfall that has a 30% chance of flinching there is a chance that gyarados destroys teams without taking damage. you don't have to mega evolve gyarados in the first turn either so you don't have to worry about fighting types what you still resist with your flying typing. so its harder to predict what you are gonna do.

the cons of gyarados is the more weaknesses you get . if gyarados isn't able to defeat the opponent it's over for gyarados. status conditions are also a big problem for gyarados. burn halves the attack status and deals damage every turn on gyarados and parylisis that cuts the speed in half and you know what happens if gyarados takes damage from a super effective attack.

the biggest pain for gyarados is choice scarf super power darmanitan. choice scarf increases the speed with 1.5 (the same as a dragon dance) but only allows you to use 1 move. and 1 move is enough to take gyarados down

with charizard you can easy confuse you opponent. they never know if it is Mega x or y. normal charizard has always been a mix so the the new psychical moves you give it can be surprises if they have never battled one before. most use y because of the full use of solarbeam to take out rock and water types. but a dragon claw can do the same damage to and no one expect its with 80 base power 50% more for the stab bonus x 1.33 because of tough claws and x 1.5 for each dragon dance a single dragon claw really hurts!
charizard job is to take down walls. and it can do that pretty well. after 2 dragon dances its over for your opponent. charizard is also handy to start the battle with so it doesn't have to take stealt rock damage and the Pokemon that set up stealth rocks most of the team are: ferrothorn - skarmory - donphan when they use stealth rock you are able to set up 1 dragon dance and the only Pokemon that will stand than is skarmory thanks to its sturdy. charizard also loses its electric weakness and water types only do neutral damage and rock types only do times 2 now. it now has a ground weakness to. charizard flare blitz sure kills Pokemon and after the flare blitz use roost when you opponent is setting up. and just kill the next one as well with dragon claw or again flare blitz. of course never let you opponent give the chance to set up more than you can take.

a pain for charizard are still the stealth rocks and some Pokemon can take him out really easely. and those are the 2 Pokemon that can take out teams without 1 set up in less than 5 minutes battling: choice scarf earthquacke landorus therian and excadrill. those to are the pain of competitive battlers. so for charizard with that ground weakness now charizard can't take hits. just liike gyarados. so always end your oponent as quack as possible! that is why I never have roost on my charizard, I rather have earthquacke to take rock types easy out.

which Pokemon suits the best on your team? the mold breaker gyarados or the always hard hitting charizard x? it's your choice. I rahter have charizard on my teamits faster than gyarados and with his ability he can keep it up with gyardos his attack stat. it is much to read but hope I helped