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Yveltal special sweeper

Marshadow physical

Zygarde wall

Eternatus revenge or lead

I think I these are the right categories for those Pokémon. Don’t mind the Yveltal pls answer from experience pls. (Online battles in game swsh)

Would you like it to be a legendary, or is that unintentional?
Well uh just anything that fits the team
I dunno if the helps, but I usually use a wall as my lead, so I can adjust to my opponent’s strategy.
Which poke pls?
I don't think walls as a lead is a good strategy. It's a wall; you don't sacrifice it to set up rocks, that's the role of a suicide lead like Mew, Ubers Excadrill, Deoxys-Speed (not in the game), Smeargle (not in the game), and Greninja in Ubers (not in the game). A wall like Heatran switches around a lot, switching into teammates' weaknesses with resistances and/or bulk. Sacrificing a wall very early is a very big disadvantage
A lot of times you don't want a designated lead, and if you do, it may not always work out. For example, swampert is a good lead, but if they have a lot of grass type pokemon that may want to be used as a lead, you may want to lead something else, like ferrothorn. I think it is good to have a few pokemon that can be used as leads, but its not always the best strategy to lead the same pokemon over and over. a lot of times for me I choose the pokemon that beats their lead, or the one that does best against their team overall
Ok, yeah, see your point. Sorry, I am knew to competitive.
We still don't really know what format you're asking about even though we already posted 2 answers that got a total of 6 up-votes.

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First, you should not just think one Pokemon is your lead and click that same Pokemon during every team preview. It's better to look at your opponent's team, think about which Pokemon they might lead with, and make sure your lead does not let the opponent immediately set up a sweeper or force you to sacrifice a Pokemon on turn 1. There are some cases when their lead is extremely predictable (such as when they use a Shuckle). In that case, you should lead with a defogger (like Yveltal) and try to shut down their sticky web strategy as quickly as possible.

Of the 4 Pokemon in your question, I'd say the best lead is usually Eternatus. Against other common leads like Yveltal, Necrozma, and Zacian, Eternatus can comfortably tank most of their hits. This lets it cripple them with toxic, hit them with a super effective flamethrower, or use toxic spikes when the opponent switches to a better Eternatus counter.

If you're willing to consider adding a better lead, then I suggest this moveset.
Kyogre @ choice scarf
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid nature
- water spout
- thunder
- ice beam
- origin pulse
This Kyogre will outspeed more than 80% of other leads (watch out for opposing Kyogre and Calyrex) and immediately hit them with a rain-boosted and STAB-boosted 150 base power water spout, or a super effective coverage move. Unless the opponent forces you out with a Calyrex or switches to a Palkia while you use water spout, the opponent is almost guaranteed to lose a Pokemon in the first 3 turns.

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Not 3v3 player can have 3 pokes in team
Next question: If primal Kyogre is better than choice scarf Kyogre, how do you plan to get a blue orb in SwSh?
O thought that primal is in Gen 8....
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A good lead usually has something to contribute for your team, like hazards, weather setting, putting a Pokemon to sleep, or stopping other leads. I'll review some solid leads.

Swampert is very good, able to set up with Stealth Rock and pivot away with Flip Turn. It also gets moves like Roar to bring more Pokemon into the path of its rocks, and Earthquake to do major damage. It's quite bulky, and has just one weakness.

Swampert @ Leftovers
Ability: Damp
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
IVs: 0 Spe
Sassy Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Flip Turn
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam / Scald / Protect

Ferrothorn is another good lead, with an excellent defensive type combination and access to Spikes and Stealth Rock. It also gets Thunder Wave, Knock Off and Leech Seed to further cripple opponents and Power Whip to take out other leads like Swampert.

Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 80 Def / 176 SpD
Careful Nature
- Spikes / Stealth Rock
- Knock Off
- Leech Seed / Thunder Wave
- Power Whip

Heatran has an amazing typing (watch out for that Ground weakness), and can set up Stealth Rock, Taunt, and Magma Plume. It took a hit now that it's unable to use Toxic, but it's still very good.

Heatran @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 128 SpD / 128 Spe
Calm Nature
- Magma Storm
- Earth Power
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock

Azelf is kind of a weird choice, and probably not as good as some of the other Pokemon on the list. However, it functions as a good suicide lead, with Stealth Rock, Taunt, Explosion, and Knock Off.

Azelf @ Focus Sash
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Taunt
- Explosion
- Knock Off

Froslass isn't good, per se, but it's unconventional and it can work. With moves like Will-O-Wisp, Taunt, and Spikes, plus Destiny Bond, it can catch an opponent by surprise.

Froslass @ Focus Sash
Ability: Cursed Body
EVs: 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Spikes
- Taunt
- Destiny Bond / Will-O-Wisp
- Icy Wind

Mew is very versatile, and can have Stealth Rock, Spikes, and Taunt, among other moves, to mess with the opponents.

Mew @ Red Card
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Spikes
- Stealth Rock
- Taunt
- Explosion

Excadrill is excellent. It can set up Stealth Rock, Rapid Spin away hazards from other leads, it's fast, and it can be a potent attacker with Swords Dance, Earthquake, and Iron Head.

Excadrill @ Leftovers
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Swords Dance / Rapid Spin
- Stealth Rock

These are some of the more notable leads. If I find any others, I'll add them to the answer. If it's unclear why any of these are leads, I'm happy to elaborate. If you're actually talking about Ubers, as you say in your tags, then Excadrill is the best in this list. Ferrothorn and to a lesser extent Froslass can also do well.

Hope I helped!

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Ok! Cool!
Uh should I make swampert a mega?
Swampert doesn't have access to Mega Evolution in Sword and Shield. Even if it did, I would say no, as Leftovers helps with its longevity.
(although i didnt answer this i have an idea lol)
Dont make it mega even if you can. For one, it uses your mega, and it has a decent chance to faint. Another reason is that you want lefties. it has no other recovery besides rest.
Oh yeah forgot but ok
The asker asked about Ubers. Out of the Pokemon mentioned here, only Excadrill and maybe Froslass or Ferrothorn are good leads in Ubers.
"Online battles in game swsh"

I believe they used the wrong tag, judging by most of their other questions. @Carbonhydrate, are you talking about the Smogon tier called Uber, as you say in the tags? Or online battles in Swsh, as you say in the question?
What "online battles SwSh" format allows Marshadow? The 4 Pokemon in the question look more like an Ubers team.