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I've built a team around Mega Gyarados, and I would greatly appreciate some opinions on it. This team will be used in the game, not in Showdown.

Item: Gyaradosite
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 atk, 252 spe, 4 sp.def
Ice Fang
Dragon Dance

Item: Black Sludge
Nature: Calm
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 sp.def, 252 hp, 4 def

Item: Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 hp, 216 def, 40 spe
Lava Plume
Earth Power
Stealth Rock

Item: Toxic Orb
Nature: Impish
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 hp, 184 def, 72 spe

Item: Soul Dew
Nature: Timid
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 spe. Atk, 252 spe, 4 sp.def
Draco Meteor

Item: Grassium Z
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 atk, 252 spe, 4 def
Leaf Blade
Smart Strike
Sacred Sword
Swords Dance

When making suggestions, it would be greatly appreciated if you could refrain from posting pokemon that require specific Hidden Powers. It would also be great if, in the event that you replace a pokemon, you could explain why it was chosen over the previous pokemon.

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Heatran might need some sp dfs--aura sphere, earth power, and scald/brine are moves that can potentially hit it hard. Also, though entirely my opinion, unless you have something that negates the effects, you may not want to have moves such as Draco meteor (latios) that lower the user's main stat. Apart from that, you have a really good team.

Latios needs draco meteor to 1-shot certain opponents. I think the special attack drops are worth it.
Well, the Heatran I got was bold. I can get another one, but the one I got was bold, plus, I knew that Heatran would be weak to Aura Sphere and Scald and such, but Toxapex can eat those. I suppose Toxapex doesn't like being burned, but it still deals well with special hits that Heatran can't take as well.
Also, I recently had an idea of an alternative team member. Assault Vest Tapu Bulu over Toxapex. Here's the set:

Tapu Bulu
Item: Assault Vest
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Grassy Surge
EVs: 252 hp, 164 atk, 92 sp.def
Wood Hammer
Horn Leech
Nature's Madness

For those curious, the EV spread on this Tapu Bulu makes Tapu Bulu bulky enough to survive 3 Psychics from Modest Choice Specs Tapu Lele after Grassy Terrain recovery while making its physical attacks as powerful as possible with the rest of its EVs. My thought process behind this possible new team member was weighted by pros and cons.

more passive than Tapu Bulu
has bad matchup against the Tapus (which is significant because they're quite common) except for some variants of Tapu Bulu
Is a better defensive pokemon overall
has better recovery
has a good matchup against most of the other team members' checks
can take on many of the most powerful special attackers in the tier (like Ash-Greninja, Blacephalon not carrying Ghostium Z, etc.)
can phaze
heals itself by switching out (contributing to better longevity)
can switch into fighting attacks for Kartana and Gyarados post-Mega, fairy attacks for Latios and Gyarados post-Mega, water attacks for Gliscor and Heatran and ice attacks for Gliscor and Latios
can potentially allow other team members to stall out any would-be checks
doesn't lower the power of team members' move just by existing

Tapu Bulu:
not as good defensively as Toxapex
relies on dealing significant damage to opponents to heal effectively
sets up a terrain that lowers the power of some teammate's moves
doesn't have the added ability to phaze
not as passive as Toxapex
can also switch into many of the other team members' checks
counters Ash-Greninja (which is a very big threat in general, but also to the team) and Keldeo
has a good matchup against all of the Tapus (which, again is very good since they're very common) except for opposing Tapu Bulu
sets up Grassy Terrain that gives Heatran additional recovery, reduced damage from ground-type attacks, and boosts the power of Kartana's Leaf Blade
takes on bulky water types that Mega Gyarados has some issues with
can switch into electric attacks for Gyarados, fighting attacks for Kartana, ground attacks for Heatran, water attacks for Gliscor, and dragon and dark attacks for Latios

So, the point of this comment is, which one should I pick? I know that the original question was about the whole team, but I would like to know which would be the better choice. I've weighed the pros and cons of each and can't come to a decision myself. Thank you for your feedback! (once you give it that is)
Doesn't Kartana already beat Tapu Lele for you?
(Replying to user sumwun) Kinda. Kartana can't beat Choice Scarf Tapu Lele. Also, the main thing about Tapu Bulu is that it can switch in on Tapu Lele's Psychic, which is something Kartana can't do. Kartana can switch in on Choice Specs Tapu Lele's Psyshock, but it still takes a lot of damage and can't heal it off.
That doesn't make sense. I understand Kartana can't switch into most of Lele's moves, but it shouldn't care about the 40% HP lost from Psyshock and be faster than Lele and OHKO it with Smart Strike. :P
Tapu Bulu's potential place on the team isn't centered around countering Tapu Lele, I just gave Tapu Bulu that EV spread so that it could have the added benefit of being able to switch in on something as powerful as Lele's Psychic. If it can switch in on something as powerful as that, it can also switch in to lots of other powerful special attacks like Mega Alakazam's Psychic, Hydro Pump or Dark Pulse from either variant of Greninja, and Thunderbolt from Tapu Koko and actually retaliate. Like you said, Kartana would be my primary answer to Tapu Lele (unless it's Scarf). But getting back to Tapu Bulu, the whole point behind Tapu Bulu's potential place on the team was to have a defensive pokemon that sacrificed a bit of defensive capability in favor of being able to actually retaliate against the things it's absorbing attacks from, which Toxapex can't quite do. Speaking of Toxapex, the whole point of the Tapu Bulu comment was to highlight the things that Tapu Bulu does that Toxapex doesn't and determine (through viewer feedback) which of those would synergize better with the rest of the team.