Wall for Ditto (page 119)

Why would you use Glaceon when Darmanitan does mostly the same thing but better?
commented Oct 8, 2020 by sumwun
  
Glaceon in ou with that set-maybe. Ubers? Likely not. The opponent had a not very good team, and pretty much all teams have a zacian.
Here's a damage calc of what would happen
+1 252 Atk Zacian-Crowned Behemoth Blade vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Glaceon: 552-650 (165.2 - 194.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Not a very good situation for glaceon.
If not, they have a cinderace

252 Atk Cinderace Pyro Ball vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Glaceon: 336-396 (100.5 - 118.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Again:disaster waiting to happen
commented Oct 8, 2020 by Haze
  
Glaceon can't Dynamax in lower tiers.
commented Oct 8, 2020 by sumwun
  
What I meant was it can't really stand up to anything in ubers, and maybe in ou it could survive
commented Oct 8, 2020 by Haze
  
sumwun Glaceon is bulkier and a special attacker, but slow and has a bad movepool. Darmanitan is fast and a physical attacker, but very frail.
commented Oct 12, 2020 by Shykid44
  
sm 4evr I didn't say Glaceon was perfect. The ONLY time I would send out Glaceon against Zacian is under Hail because of Snow Cloak. And Glaceon can beat Cinderace One on One. 252 ATK+ Cinderace-Gmax G- Max Fireball vs. 252HP/ 0 def  Glaceon only does 492-578(73.6-86.5%) damage, guaranteed 2HKO, but +2 252+ SPA (let's be honest, anyone using cinderace against glaceon is going to use pyro ball/g-max fireball) Glaceon Max geyser vs. 0 HP/ 4 SPD Dynamax Cinderace-Gmax does 644-782 (110.2-129.9%) Damage, guaranteed OHKO. So the pressure is on Cinderace in this one.
commented Oct 12, 2020 by Shykid44
  
Sorry if this sounds mean, but winning some lower ladder games does not mean that you've unearthed a hidden gem that everyone is underrating. Especially not in a format like Ubers where nobody in the lower ladder plays the best Pokemon. There is a reason why players better than you and I don't use Glaceon -- it is outclassed.
commented Oct 12, 2020 by Fizz
  
Fizz I only showed an example. And I have beaten some of the actual uber Pokemon with Glaceon, like Mewtwo, Lunala, Necrozma, Kyurum, and Cinderace. Again, it's not perfect, but it's definately underrated.
commented Oct 12, 2020 by Shykid44
  
I'm sure you have, but the point stands that winning games against people who are bad at competitive Pokemon doesn't mean you can say Glaceon is viable (or 'underrated').
Would you tell somebody playing Ubers in a tournament that they should use Glaceon on their team instead of Darmanitan, Kyurem, or any other 'standard' wallbreaker?
commented Oct 12, 2020 by Fizz
  
Fizz I didn't tell anyone to do anything. I put my set and y'all commented. I just answered your questions. I feel like this Pokemon is underrated because people say it's "unusable" when it's not. It's actually really strong.
commented Oct 12, 2020 by Shykid44
  
I never said it's unusable. I said it's less usable than Darmanitan in most situations.
commented Oct 12, 2020 by sumwun
  
sumwun considering Glaceon's a special attacker and Darmanitan is a physical attacker, yes
commented Oct 12, 2020 by Shykid44
  
What Pokemon is common in Ubers and has such high physical defense that Darmanitan can't threaten it but Glaceon can?
commented Oct 12, 2020 by sumwun
  
sumwun Like I said, Glaceon is a special attacker, but since you asked, it can threaten both Necrozmas,, Zekrom, and Dracovish. Basically the only uber Pokemon Glaceon has little to no chance of beating is Melmetal, Zamazenta, and Zacian.
commented Oct 12, 2020 by Shykid44
  
But is Glaceon better than Darmanitan at checking Zekrom and Dracovish?

Zekrom and Dracovish?
Also Glaceon can't consistently beat dusk mane Necrozma, or some other common threats in Ubers like Marshadow, Blissey, Cinderace, and Tyranitar.
commented Oct 12, 2020 by sumwun
  
sumwun after a sunsteel strike, dynamax glaceon survives, thus activating wp and max phantasm is a guaranteed 2hko. It can also beat Cinderace and Marshadow one on one. Blissey has super high hp and special defense, so any special attacker who doesn't have psyshock would have trouble, Glaceon vs Tyranitar is a kind of roller coaster ride because it really depends on the set Tyranitar is running.
commented Oct 12, 2020 by Shykid44
edited Oct 13, 2020 by Shykid44
  
Again, is Glaceon better than Darmanitan at beating any of them? I know that Darmanitan is better against Blissey and Tyranitar.
commented Oct 12, 2020 by sumwun
  
according to damage calculations, yes
commented Oct 13, 2020 by Shykid44
  
First, you can't rely on Dynamax to check a non-Dynamax opponent. The opponent will likely switch to a defensive Pokemon like Blissey, which wastes your 3 Dynamax turns and make you unable to check that Dynamax-requiring opponent anymore. Even if it doesn't switch, you will use up your Dynamax and weakness policy. When your opponent Dynamaxes later, you won't be able to Dynamax in response to that.

Second, Darmanitan is significantly faster than Glaceon. In addition to checking a lot of healthy opponents, it can revenge-kill a weakened Mewtwo, Dragapult, Zacian, or Eternatus without taking any damage, which Glaceon can't do.

Zekrom outspeeds Glaceon, and both blizzard and bolt strike can miss. So Glaceon has a 74.5% chanceof winning this matchup.
252 Atk Teravolt Zekrom Bolt Strike vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Glaceon: 219-258 (65.5 - 77.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Glaceon Blizzard vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Zekrom: 396-468 (116.1 - 137.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Darmanitan outspeeds Zekrom and has a 91.5% chance of winning without taking any damage.
252 Atk Gorilla Tactics Darmanitan-Galar Icicle Crash vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Zekrom: 374-444 (109.6 - 130.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Neither Glaceon nor Darmanitan can beat dusk mane Necrozma without Dynamax.
4 Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Sunsteel Strike vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Glaceon: 296-350 (88.6 - 104.7%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
+2 252+ SpA Glaceon Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Prism Armor Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 267-315 (67 - 79.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 Atk Gorilla Tactics Darmanitan-Galar Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Prism Armor Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 189-223 (47.4 - 56%) -- 82.4% chance to 2HKO
4 Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Sunsteel Strike vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Darmanitan-Galar: 512-606 (145.8 - 172.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Dracovish outspeeds and OHKOs Glaceon.
252+ Atk Choice Band Strong Jaw Dracovish Fishious Rend (170 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Glaceon: 492-579 (147.3 - 173.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Darmanitan can't beat Dracovish, either. But it can at least outspeed and weaken Dracovish, or revenge-kill Dracovish after a teammate weakens it.
252 Atk Gorilla Tactics Darmanitan-Galar Icicle Crash vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Dracovish: 220-259 (68.5 - 80.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Strong Jaw Dracovish Fishious Rend (85 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Darmanitan-Galar: 426-502 (121.3 - 143%) -- guaranteed OHKO

source: https://calc.pokemonshowdown.com/
commented Oct 17, 2020 by sumwun
  
Sorry, we're not taking movesets from low ladder AG players anymore.
commented Nov 30, 2021 by Fizz

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8ubers-1199965467
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8ubers-1202063973
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8anythinggoes-1460181494
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8anythinggoes-1460193398
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8anythinggoes-1462750921

Here is a Sword and Shield set I use in Anything Goes

Glaceon @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Snow Cloak / Ice Body
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
- Blizzard
- Freeze Dry
- Shadow Ball
- Water Pulse

I think the problem is people always try to make Glaceon fast, but what if we don't? It has 110 defense and 95 special defense. We can make a bulky special sweeper or wall breaker here. With full HP, Glaceon can take a decent amount of super-effective hits. And when you Dynamax and get that hail up, your Ice-type moves are stronger, Blizzard is 100% accuracy, and Snow Cloak activates, which means you have a chance to avoid attacks. You can also go for Ice Body, but Glaceon's not a wall, so I'd rather Snow cloak. and 9 times out of 10 someone is going to use a super-effective move against our icy friend, so Weakness Policy can activate and then you are doing an INSANE amount of damage. I really think Glaceon is underrated and should have a chance because this thing plays no games when it comes to battling.

Here is a quick clip of Glaceon showing what it can do:

The grand small list of links that should probably work:


https://www.quotev.com/quiz/14751455/What-DBZ-Character-Is-Your-Ideal-Friend
Fun quiz, made me really think.

https://www.quotev.com/story/8772895/AMAZING-Starkits-prophecy-commentary/10
The misspellings. The MISSPELLINGS. Oh god it's funny.

https://pokemon-sues.livejournal.com/9669.html#cutid1
I forget what exactly this is but it must be good.

I don't know what it is with scenes involving Trunks when he's not the guy the Reader Sue is y'know destined to be together with or whatever. They're great.

"I'm sure the brat can go somewhere else."
"Don't you dare call him that, you arrogant b*stard!"

When the Reader Sue is actually likable.

Why not gg ;3

Ooooo you have a gf?

"I like your hair, your outfit (I could never do earrings though eesh), and you have a nice smile."

"Yes, actually. I could never tell you used to be male, at least from this picture (and it's just generally a bit hard for me to remember that in the first place). You look like a gorgeous young lady."

"Also just a thing about me the fact I was able to type that is a miracle within itself because I do NOT have experience with complimenting looks and judging fashion and stuff."

Wonder what it all means lol