How did non-shiny Honedge go to shiny Aegislash?

Question

I was watching a livestream in twitch of Pokemon the person I was seeing have a friend and traded him 3 honedge non-shiny when he (the friend) returned the Pokemon they where 3 shiny aegislash how did it happen? (i think it was pokegened but how if pokegen cant be used in 6 generation Pokemon)

Comments

What do you mean? Honedge eggs or the shiny pokemon itself?

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a non shiny honedge catched in wild im asking about how did the non shiny pokemon got shiny

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here is the video: http://www.twitch.tv/shofu/b/507773354 3h:50m:0s thats the time to see it

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the trade back is at: 4h:29m:0s

Answer 1

This is because Shininess is dependant on your IDs alongside Personality Values.

wat do you mean bi 2 ids le scootch

Each trainer has two IDs, their normal ID and their secret ID. This is just a second ID number for a lesser chance a traded Pokemon is treated as your own (in case the two trainers have the same normal ID number).

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Cool, now how did that Honedge turn into Shiny Aegislash? Well, here's how:

S = IDTrainer ⊻ IDSecret ⊻ p1 ⊻ p2
IDTrainer is your Trainer ID.
IDSecret is your Secret ID.
p1 and p2 are bits of your Pokemon's personality values.
⊻ is a bitwise exclusive or operation. Click on the link for more info.

If S is less than 16 (0-15) it is shiny. If it is equal or greater than 16 (15-65535) it isn't shiny.

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Plugging in numbers, say the original Honedge owned had an ID of 32374 and a Secret ID of 31485, and the Honedge had a Personality Value of 2814471828 for this specific strand. Since it is all binary, this comes down to:

S = 0111111001110110 ⊻ 0111101011111101 ⊻ 1010011111000001 ⊻ 0110111010010100
S = 1100110111011110 (In Binary)
S = 52702            (In Decimal)

So, since S is equal to 52702, the Honedge would not be shiny.

But say this Honedge is traded to Shofu, who has the ID number of 24294 and a Secret ID of 38834. Then,

S = 0101111011100110 ⊻ 1001011110110010 ⊻ 1010011111000001 ⊻ 0110111010010100
S = 0000000000000001 (In Binary)
S = 1                (In Decimal)

So, since S is equal to 1 here, the Honedge would be shiny with Shofu.
However, since this doesn't magically just happen, the Honedge would either have to change forms or evolve, and the Honedge went through the latter, making Aegislash be shiny.

Comments

Teh faq scrogg? where do you find information like this? +1 anyway

EDIT: i can't upvote for some reason :/

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but they were 3 how much luck would one need? also duncan (i think it was him) say honedge would not be able to be nicknamed after the trade (shofu -> duncan then duncan -> shofu) how if shofu is honedge owner?

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dude of bananas i upvote for you

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The ID and Secret ID are set when caught, and don't change when Shofu gets it.

Also the luck is, at it's highest, 1/1000000000000000

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i mean shofu caught honedge so how when he gets he cant nickname it?

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I don't understand.

If Shofu caught Honedge, the friend's ID and Secret ID made it Shiny Aegislash, the Aegislash would stay Shiny when traded back to Shofu.

But nicknames?

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duncan said when shofu gets aegislash back he cant nickname them so he must nickname them before trading also duncan says he can de-shiny aegislash whenever he wants

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Holy math… :|

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@Megaswifter I've never heard of de-shinying a fully evolved Pokemon unless it's like Keldeo...
@Dragoon It's actually more programming :P

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like making a shiny pokemon not shiny anymore and vice versa

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Fully evolved Pokemon can't get deshinyfied I think

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well thats what duncan said

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also he trained the aegislashes waaaay to quickly to have done it in the E4

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So much info 0_o :)

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I understand 34%

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I understand soo much, like 0%. What happened to english!

Answer 2

This isn't exactly as elaborate as le scraf's explanation and is more or less an add-on to what he said. There is this hacking device called powersave and it can make any gen 6 Pokemon shiny. It may or may not have been what was used, but it is a possibility