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they keep switching into each other
yanmega @ choice scarf
tinted lenses
bug buzz
air slash
tail wind

manectric @ choice scarf
lightning rod
volt switch
thunder wave
wild charge
electro ball

will this work and how can I improve it (I don't mind if I have to switch Pokemon just make sure one has volt switch and one has U-turn)

inspired by the emolgas in pokemon black electric gym(forgot her name)
Elsa? wait what no. It was Elesa, her name was Elesa, lol her Gym was annoying, my friend couldn't beat her in BW2 so he bought his game to school, and I beat it on the first try and he said he tried like 4 or 5 times. XD
I'd start by completely re-evaluating the Manectric set. It is strictly a special attacker so there is no need to slap on a third stab in Wild Charge on there which will be doing pretty pitiful damage while giving recoil. Also Electro Ball is pretty dog crap. Apologies if this assumption is wrong but I'm guessing you aren't all too invested in competitive batteling (given the set (lack of understanding in moveset/choice scarf)) and it wouldn't be silly of me to assume you won't be utilizing the pros of EVs, Natures and IVs to your advantage so at level 100 we are probably looking at a Manectric with about 250-280 speed. This becomes 375-420(blaze it) when attached with choice scarf.

Given them stats (and ignoring Tailwind, Yanmega is choiced, you don't want to lock it into Tailwind now will you want to lock yourself into Thunder Wave with Manectric. Choice Scarf increases speed to 150% but only allows one choice of move), for Manectric to be dealing max damage with Electro Ball (150 power) the opponent must have a speed of 93.75-105 which is extremely low, most Pokemon have more speed than that by level 50... The kinds of Pokemon that will be slower than that are Pokemon like Ferrothorn and Snorlax that have no problems dealing with it.

To demonstrate, a Manectric of 280 speed and 270 SAtk using Electro Ball against a standard Snorlax of 96 speed (meaning Electro Ball is at 150 power) will be dishing out less than 32% which isn't even a 3HKO. Maybe even a 4HKO with leftovers.

-220 SpA Manectric Electro Ball (150 BP) vs. 144 HP / 176+ SpD Snorlax: 133-157 (26.7 - 31.5%) -- 22.1% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

That was just max damage. To get 120BP, you need to be above 25% of the user but under 33% which is looking at 125-140 speed which is extremely slow. Most slow Pokemon beat that with no investment.

To get 80BP which is relatively weak, it needs to have more than 140 speed which is extremely likely

To get 60BP,  the opposing Pokemon needs to have more than 50% of your speed which is 187-210 speed which is very average speed. 60% of the Pokemon you face will be hit for 60BP :P

Just thought this might change your outlook on Electro Ball.
this should be an answer
It most certainly shouldn't be an answer :P It doesn't answer your question. The purpose of that comment for to change your outlook on Electro ball.

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There are a couple of things we should change with this.

1) They're both special attackers. Chansey or Blissey will break this strategy, because neither of their attackers can do shiz. I suggest Staraptor as your other VoltTurner.

2) The move sets need changing. Manectric, when Mega, is really fast already, and can force switches with Intimidate. And it's primarily a special attacker, there's no need for Wild Charge (as Blobyolo said previously.)

Here are the sets I think you should run:

Manectric @ Manectite
Ability: Lightningrod -> Intimidate
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
-Volt Switch
-Hidden Power Ice

Staraptor @ Leftovers
Ability: Reckless
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
-Brave Bird
-Close Combat

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I'd use Return or Frustration, or even good ol' Quick Attack over Double Edge to avoid massive recoil. Well, maybe not Quick Attack. But still!
But Reckless Double-Edge hits Rotom-W like a truck, and gets boosted
No prob.