How can you use Victini without V-Create or Fusion Moves?

Question

This question is for specific circumstances, with the following reasons:

• I intend to use this for local battling purposes mostly, but we still play semi-competitively.
• This 2016 event Victini did not carry V-Create, Fusion moves, or Bolt Strike/Blue Flare.

I dug up Omega Ruby for the first time in over 6 months today, and remembered I had never picked this Victini up because I had no idea what to do with it. How am I supposed to use it without these moves? That was the only one I ever used and I fear that the old movesets predating the V-Create Victini may be outclassed today. Hopefully someone has a good option for me because I don't have a clue.

EDIT: Despite the question's title which was edited by an Expert, I would like a moveset, not Pokemon choice advice. So far, I have only thought of a potential Choice Specs option, even that isn't awesome. Is there anything else?

Comments

Hope you don't mind me changing the question title here. Outright creating a moveset thread and allowing it makes it look like we'll make special exceptions for people whenever they want, which we won't since it'll distribute responses across multiple threads and would make more endless threads to bump constantly. But this will hopefully give you a similar answer and some perspective.

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First, Victini is banned in all official formats. You could use it in free battles or local battles or whatever, but it would be pretty badly outclassed by stuff like Groudon and Ho-Oh. You could theoretically play local battles with OU rules, but I don't see the point in that when you can play the real OU on Showdown!. If you really want to play OU on a 3DS, then I guess I might as well help you. The standard OU set uses v-create, bolt strike, u-turn, and final gambit. The last two moves can be learned by your Victini, and the first two can be replaced with flare blitz and either thunder punch (for water coverage) or zen headbutt (for STAB). It should work, albeit be a little weaker.

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It's also pretty badly outclassed by stronger scarf users, like Heatran and Tapu Lele, even when it does know v-create and fusion bolt.

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Bumping this thread. I want a moveset, not advice. This is in fact for local battles; college's gaming club has a good few guys playing competitive Pokemon.

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If you ask an editor or moderator to put this back on the unanswered list, then they should do it.

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@StellarLucario I left a message on your wall, I hope it makes sense. Instead of hiding this question altogether I tried to compromise. For the time being until you have a question title that you're happy with and that fits the rules, I'll leave the answer this question currently has. But if you still want it gone afterward I'll get to it (leave a comment or message me again).

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How come no one mentioned Searing Shot?

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It's because flare blitz is much better. One reason is that some walls have low physical defense and depend on burns to stop physical attackers. A flare blitz Victini would break these walls much more easily.

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So when you play local battles, which Pokemon are banned?

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Are you talking to me?

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The comment about flare blitz was a response to yours, the next comment was not, and this one is.

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With local battles, basically all Pokes banned to Smogon's Ubers are banned unless we're playing Ubers, except for standard ability Blaziken and Greninja; only their hidden abilities are banned.

Answer 1

First, I'll look at what's generally considered the best set and then imitate it to the best of your ability.
Victini @ normalium Z
Ability: victory star
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly nature
- celebrate
- v-create
- bolt strike
- u-turn
Your Victini probably doesn't know celebrate, so the normalium z set is out of the question. This is the next best.
Victini @ choice scarf
Ability: victory star
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly nature
- v-create
- bolt strike
- u-turn
- trick
Victini can learn u-turn by TM and trick by BW2 or ORAS move tutor, so there shouldn't be a problem there. As you said, your Victini can't learn v-create or bolt strike. V-create is a powerful physical fire STAB, so it can be substituted by flare blitz, which it can learn by level up. Bolt strike is for water coverage, so it can be substituted by thunder punch, which it can learn by BW2 or ORAS move tutor.
tldr
Victini @ choice scarf
Ability: victory star
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly nature
- flare blitz
- thunder punch
- u-turn
- trick
By the way, it would still be outclassed by Heatran. It doesn't matter whether you're explicitly playing OU; OU is just the format where Ubers stuff is banned, which seems to be exactly what you're playing.

Comments

-.- I give up. We don't confine to one tier, we use just whatever. All Ubers are to us is a banlist.

But seriously, if I need to pick it up from the delivery lady, what DO I want? I don't want to get stuck with garbage when I pick it up (even though it kinda is anyway).

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Edited!

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not bad, +1, thank you.