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Mod note: do not answer this with your own moveset — there are separate threads for that.

Game used: Pokemon Sun
I am breeding Eevees and all Eeveelutions will have 6IVs. I am using Smogon SM recommended sets so that means they have the same Natures, Abilities and EVs. Unfortunately, some moves are only available in USUM or are Hidden Power types I can't have with 6IV Pokemon.

Edit: I would like to apologize for any confusion I caused. This wasn't suppose to be a Rate My Team question, however looking at the way I formatted the question, It does and I realized I never stated that this was the Official Smogon Set and isn't my own. I am now unsure if I should move this question to RMT but this is about asking for alternative moves and sets to Smogon for SM only

Note: 6IV Pokemon Hidden Power will always be Dark Type.

Role: RU All Out Attacker
Item: Life Orb or Choice Specs (Undecided. Life Orb is recommended more)
Ability: Volt Absorb
Nature: Timid (+Spe -Atk)
EVs: 4 Def | 252 SpA | 252 Spe
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power Ice

Jolteon has 6IVs and cannot have Hidden Power Ice.

Role: PU Wallbreaker
Item: Choice Band
Ability: Flash Fire
Nature: Adamant (+Atk -SpA)
EVs: 252 Atk | 4 Def | 252 Spe
- Flare Blitz
- Superpower
- Quick Attack
- Double-Edge

Superpower is an USUM Move Tutor move and cannot be learned in SM.

Role: RU Sun Sweeper
Item: Normalium Z
Ability: Chlorophyll
Nature: Adamant (+Atk -SpA)
EVs: 252 Atk | 4 Def | 252 Spe
- Swords Dance
- Leaf Blade
- Knock Off
- Double-Edge

Knock Off is an USUM Move Tutor move and cannot be learned in SM.

Role: PU Choice Specs
Item: Choice Specs
Ability: Ice Body
Nature: Modest (+SpA - Atk)
EVs: 4 Def | 252 SpA | 252 Spe
- Ice Beam
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power Fighting
- Frost Breath

Glaceon has 6IVs and cannot have Hidden Power Fighting.

Role: UU Cleric
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Pixilate
Nature: Bold (+Def -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP | 252 Def | 4 SpA
- Hyper Voice
- Wish
- Protect
- Heal Bell / Hidden Power Fire

Hyper Voice and Hell Bell are both Move Tutor moves and are not available in SM. Sylveon also has 6IVs and cannot have Hidden Power Fire.

Vaporeon NU: Wish Support set is possible in SM, however it cannot learn Heal Bell or use Z-Celebrate set. Toxic is preferred anyway. Heal Bell is a Tutor Move move available in USUM and Celebrate is an event exclusive move.

Espeon RU: Calm Mind set is possible in SM, however it cannot learn Trick for Choice Specs set. Grass Knot is a recommended substitute however, Trick is preferred. Trick is a Move Tutor move available in USUM.

Umbreon RU: Cleric set seems fine however it cannot learn Heal Bell in SM. Toxic is a recommended substitute however, Heal Bell is preferred.

I use Smogon sets because I am a beginner to competitive and even though I don't have the confidence to do online competitive battles, I still want them to be battle ready and I might even use them on the battle tree.

I positive that some sets just won't work without the recommend moves, specially Sylveon's Cleric role so I'm looking for moves that do a very similar job or a completely new set that works better with the Pokemon that are Sun and Moon compatible. I do not have access to Move Tutor moves or moves available from later games so they are not an option. Any egg moves and TMs available in SM are allowed.

I'm not looking for team suggestions. I'm just looking for the best way to use these Pokemon whenever it is an attacking role or a supportive role. I want the best strategy and move set for that specific Pokemon. Even if it's just for one of them. I'm looking for move sets and strategies for all the Eeveelutions.

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It should be posted on RMT
I would also like to explain why I decided to post this, so I don't cause confusion.

I am aware of the "Do not ask moveset questions" rule, however I am asking for alternative moves for Smogon sets unavailable for SM. Most moves mention on Smogon are Move Tutor moves that are only available for USUM or Hidden Power types that I cannot use. I'm unable to transfer Pokemon without a second 3DS or Pokebank which I'm not planning on getting either.

I also decided to ask for alternative sets because I believe Sylveon cannot for fill it's Cleric role without Heal Bell regardless of what move I replace it with. I also decided I'm not using Smogon sets from OR/AS, X/Y or B/W because Pokemon has change a lot from then with new moves, abilities, Pokemon and game mechanics have change.

I would like to clearly state this is only for Sun and Moon. Ultra Sun and Moon sets will not accounted for.
I hope this can help.
@Rahat Hasan RMT? I have posted on the wrong Forum?
The best tip is: never use smogon set on game, It will probably sucks.
Unflagged it.
I think this has already caused confusion. This wasn't meant to be a Rate My Team question. It was asking for alternative moves and sets for Smogon, however if this question sounds like it belongs on RMT, I have no problems have it moved.
@Rahat Hasan Thank you for understanding and sorry if I caused confusion. I might be able to tweak the question so it doesn't look like RMT. Unless I need to move it.
Do you want strategy or alternative move?
I'm asking for both, specially for Sylveon who's set I don't think will work without Heal Bell
OK, thanks whoever left the flag. This is fine on this section, but I edited the question so it’s super clear what is being asked, and so it does not become a second moveset thread for these Pokémon.
@Fizz thank you so much! I was just about to edit this question again myself XD. Again, I'm terribly sorry for the confusion I caused. I should of stated that it was the Official Smogon set and wasn't a RMT. I never meant for this to become a second move set thread.
You worded it a lot better then I could have.

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Hidden power was supposed to be Jolteon's coverage move. Without it, you'll have to go with the next best coverage move, which is signal beam.
Flareon has pretty much the same problem. Its next best coverage move is iron tail.
Leafeon is your Z-move user, so you can give it more coverage by teaching it dig and giving it a groundium Z.
Sylveon wants hyper voice as a STAB attack and hidden power as a coverage move. When you can't learn those moves, just teach the next best STAB attack and coverage move, which are moonblast and psyshock.

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Thank you for the move suggestions. Most of them are pretty good STAB and coverage.
However, some problems are that Flareon's Iron Tail is a Move Tutor move an I'm using Pokemon Sun. I'm also unable to find Dig on Leafeon's wiki page. I think I'm going to stop relying so much on Smogon sets, some sets are just aren't usable without the right moves.
The movepools of Eevee evolutions tend to suck. Oh well.